Coug90 said:

To be fair his $413M inheritance from pops is probably a wee bit higher too, which is part of the point.

And yes Fck Pelosi also! That’s the difference between normal folks and Trump cultists.

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Loyal Coug1 said:

In current news, Kristi Noem's hearing is going on as I post this. She's 53. And still smoking hot. Damn.

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WillieThePimp said:

Trump, who liked to claim he got a $1 million dollar loan from his father and that he is a self made man, actually got $413 million from Daddy Trump.

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dgibbons said:

And his NOL carryovers mean that he'll never pay a penny of federal income tax. Is there a real point here? His assets are estimated at $6.8 billion. I'd guess that's a wee bit higher than everyone posting in this thread combined.

I'm sure there is plenty outrage (think of Willie pounding his Trump-sized baby hands on a table and screaming outrageous!) over Pelosi consistently being the best investor in Congress.

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Cougar_Guy said:

It is kind of disingenuous to suggest that Trump's only failed business ventures were the Atlantic City casinos. From his own S-4 for Trump Media and Technology Group:

"Trump Shuttle Inc., launched by President Trump in 1989, defaulted on its loans in 1990 and ceased to exist by 1992. Trump University, founded by President Trump in 2005, ceased operations in 2011 amid lawsuits and investigations regarding the company’s business practices. Trump Vodka, a brand of vodka produced by Drinks Americas under license from the Trump Organization, was introduced in 2005 and discontinued in 2011.”

“Trump Mortgage, LLC, a financial services company founded by President Trump in 2006, ceased operations in 2007. GoTrump.com, a travel site founded by President Trump in 2006, ceased operations in 2007. Trump Steaks, a brand of steak and other meats founded by President Trump in 2007, discontinued sales two months after its launch.”

Here is an independent compilation of Trump business failures:

1. Trump Airlines — Trump borrowed $245 million to purchase Eastern Air Shuttle. He branded it Trump Airlines. He added gold bathroom fixtures. Two years later Trump could not cover the interest payment on his loan and defaulted.
2. Trump Beverages — Although Trump touted his water as "one of the purest natural spring waters bottled in the world," it was simply bottled by a third party. Other beverages, including Trump Fire and Trump Power, seem not to have made it to market. And Trump's American Pale Ale died with a trademark withdrawal.
3. Trump Game — Milton Bradley tried to sell it. As did Hasbro. After investment, the game died and went out of circulation.
4. Trump Casinos — Trump filed for bankruptcy three times on his casinos, namely the Trump Taj Mahal, the Trump Marina and the Trump Plaza in New Jersey and the Trump Casino in Indiana. Trump avoided debt obligations of $3 billion the first time. Then $1.8 billion the second time. And then after reorganizing, shuffling money and assets, and waiting four years, Trump again declared bankruptcy after missing ongoing interest payments on multi-million dollar bonds. He was finally forced to step down as chairman.
5. Trump Magazine — Trump Style and Trump World were renamed Trump Magazine to reap advertising dollars from his name recognition. However, Trump Magazine also went out of business.
6. Trump Mortgage — Trump told CNBC in 2006 that "I think it's a great time to start a mortgage company. … The real-estate market is going to be very strong for a long time to come." Then the real estate market collapsed. Trump had hired E.J. Ridings as CEO of Trump Mortgage and boasted that Ridings had been a "top executive of one of Wall Street's most prestigious investment banks." Turned out Ridings had only six months of experience as a stockbroker. Trump Mortgage closed and never paid a $298,274 judgment it owed a former employee, nor the $3,555 it owed in unpaid taxes.
7. Trump Steaks — Trump closed Trump Steaks due to a lack of sales while owing Buckhead Beef $715,000.
8. Trump's Travel Site — GoTrump.com was in business for one year. Failed.
9. Trumpnet — A telephone communication company that abandoned its trademark.
10. Trump Tower Tampa — Trump sold his name to the developers and received $2 million. Then the project went belly-up with only $3,500 left in the company. Condo buyers sued Trump for allegedly misleading them. Trump settled and paid as little as $11,115 to buyers who had lost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
11. Trump University or the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative — Trump staged wealth-building seminars costing up to $34,995 for mentorships that would offer students access to Trump's secrets of success. Instructors turned out to be motivational speakers sometimes with criminal records. Lawsuits and criminal investigations abound.
12. Trump Vodka — Business failed due to a lack of sales.
13. Trump Fragrances — Success by Trump, Empire by Trump, and Donald Trump: The Fragrances all failed due to being discontinued, perhaps as a result of few sales.
14. Trump Mattress — Serta stopped offering a Trump-branded mattress, again likely due to slacking sales.

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MRICoug said:

To me they look like they have no focus, discipline, or game plan and get flustered at the first sign of physicality. Watts is a decent shooter and defender, but can get bullied. Have not seen Vavers enough to have an opinion. We are a soft team with good shooters who can’t play D and turnover the ball in a way I have not witnessed since high school.

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Loyal Coug1 said:

Hey CougarGuy - where the hell have you been hiding? Welcome (back?).

Nice list. What I can't understand is how do you go belly up so many times and are still rich? I guess these and the casinos were all corporations with no ultimate liability, but still. Who the F would invest money in this crap after multiple failures?

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Cougar_Guy said:

It is kind of disingenuous to suggest that Trump's only failed business ventures were the Atlantic City casinos. From his own S-4 for Trump Media and Technology Group:

"Trump Shuttle Inc., launched by President Trump in 1989, defaulted on its loans in 1990 and ceased to exist by 1992. Trump University, founded by President Trump in 2005, ceased operations in 2011 amid lawsuits and investigations regarding the company’s business practices. Trump Vodka, a brand of vodka produced by Drinks Americas under license from the Trump Organization, was introduced in 2005 and discontinued in 2011.”

“Trump Mortgage, LLC, a financial services company founded by President Trump in 2006, ceased operations in 2007. GoTrump.com, a travel site founded by President Trump in 2006, ceased operations in 2007. Trump Steaks, a brand of steak and other meats founded by President Trump in 2007, discontinued sales two months after its launch.”

Here is an independent compilation of Trump business failures:

1. Trump Airlines — Trump borrowed $245 million to purchase Eastern Air Shuttle. He branded it Trump Airlines. He added gold bathroom fixtures. Two years later Trump could not cover the interest payment on his loan and defaulted.
2. Trump Beverages — Although Trump touted his water as "one of the purest natural spring waters bottled in the world," it was simply bottled by a third party. Other beverages, including Trump Fire and Trump Power, seem not to have made it to market. And Trump's American Pale Ale died with a trademark withdrawal.
3. Trump Game — Milton Bradley tried to sell it. As did Hasbro. After investment, the game died and went out of circulation.
4. Trump Casinos — Trump filed for bankruptcy three times on his casinos, namely the Trump Taj Mahal, the Trump Marina and the Trump Plaza in New Jersey and the Trump Casino in Indiana. Trump avoided debt obligations of $3 billion the first time. Then $1.8 billion the second time. And then after reorganizing, shuffling money and assets, and waiting four years, Trump again declared bankruptcy after missing ongoing interest payments on multi-million dollar bonds. He was finally forced to step down as chairman.
5. Trump Magazine — Trump Style and Trump World were renamed Trump Magazine to reap advertising dollars from his name recognition. However, Trump Magazine also went out of business.
6. Trump Mortgage — Trump told CNBC in 2006 that "I think it's a great time to start a mortgage company. … The real-estate market is going to be very strong for a long time to come." Then the real estate market collapsed. Trump had hired E.J. Ridings as CEO of Trump Mortgage and boasted that Ridings had been a "top executive of one of Wall Street's most prestigious investment banks." Turned out Ridings had only six months of experience as a stockbroker. Trump Mortgage closed and never paid a $298,274 judgment it owed a former employee, nor the $3,555 it owed in unpaid taxes.
7. Trump Steaks — Trump closed Trump Steaks due to a lack of sales while owing Buckhead Beef $715,000.
8. Trump's Travel Site — GoTrump.com was in business for one year. Failed.
9. Trumpnet — A telephone communication company that abandoned its trademark.
10. Trump Tower Tampa — Trump sold his name to the developers and received $2 million. Then the project went belly-up with only $3,500 left in the company. Condo buyers sued Trump for allegedly misleading them. Trump settled and paid as little as $11,115 to buyers who had lost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
11. Trump University or the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative — Trump staged wealth-building seminars costing up to $34,995 for mentorships that would offer students access to Trump's secrets of success. Instructors turned out to be motivational speakers sometimes with criminal records. Lawsuits and criminal investigations abound.
12. Trump Vodka — Business failed due to a lack of sales.
13. Trump Fragrances — Success by Trump, Empire by Trump, and Donald Trump: The Fragrances all failed due to being discontinued, perhaps as a result of few sales.
14. Trump Mattress — Serta stopped offering a Trump-branded mattress, again likely due to slacking sales.

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Flatlandcoug said:

We know now why you chose your username of stretch. You are reaching so hard here.

You acknowledge his bankruptcies but ignore all of his other failed ventures that didn't end up in bankruptcy but still failed. Trump University, his football team, his stupid Trump steak scam, Trump Shuttle, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, and GoTrump.com (a travel company) were other failed ventures. Those are what I found in two minutes. It's not unusual for a entrepreneur to have some failures but I'd challenge you to find one that is considered successful who has failed as often as Trump.

Trump is a grifter and a snake oil salesman who was lucky enough to be born with $100 million handed to him. If he would have just invested that money in an S&P market fund, he would have $6.3 billion today. His media company that runs Truth Social has boosted his fortunes in the past year, but his net worth was around $3 billion before he created that company. And the reality is that once Trump is not President...the Trump media company is going to collapse along with his net worth. His whole life has been a bumbling series of mistakes where doing nothing would have yielded more gain than his moronic ideas. And let's not forget that it takes a special kind of stupid to fail at the casino business....and Trump did it six times.

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Cougar_Guy said:

It is kind of disingenuous to suggest that Trump's only failed business ventures were the Atlantic City casinos. From his own S-4 for Trump Media and Technology Group:

"Trump Shuttle Inc., launched by President Trump in 1989, defaulted on its loans in 1990 and ceased to exist by 1992. Trump University, founded by President Trump in 2005, ceased operations in 2011 amid lawsuits and investigations regarding the company’s business practices. Trump Vodka, a brand of vodka produced by Drinks Americas under license from the Trump Organization, was introduced in 2005 and discontinued in 2011.”

“Trump Mortgage, LLC, a financial services company founded by President Trump in 2006, ceased operations in 2007. GoTrump.com, a travel site founded by President Trump in 2006, ceased operations in 2007. Trump Steaks, a brand of steak and other meats founded by President Trump in 2007, discontinued sales two months after its launch.”

Here is an independent compilation of Trump business failures:

1. Trump Airlines — Trump borrowed $245 million to purchase Eastern Air Shuttle. He branded it Trump Airlines. He added gold bathroom fixtures. Two years later Trump could not cover the interest payment on his loan and defaulted.
2. Trump Beverages — Although Trump touted his water as "one of the purest natural spring waters bottled in the world," it was simply bottled by a third party. Other beverages, including Trump Fire and Trump Power, seem not to have made it to market. And Trump's American Pale Ale died with a trademark withdrawal.
3. Trump Game — Milton Bradley tried to sell it. As did Hasbro. After investment, the game died and went out of circulation.
4. Trump Casinos — Trump filed for bankruptcy three times on his casinos, namely the Trump Taj Mahal, the Trump Marina and the Trump Plaza in New Jersey and the Trump Casino in Indiana. Trump avoided debt obligations of $3 billion the first time. Then $1.8 billion the second time. And then after reorganizing, shuffling money and assets, and waiting four years, Trump again declared bankruptcy after missing ongoing interest payments on multi-million dollar bonds. He was finally forced to step down as chairman.
5. Trump Magazine — Trump Style and Trump World were renamed Trump Magazine to reap advertising dollars from his name recognition. However, Trump Magazine also went out of business.
6. Trump Mortgage — Trump told CNBC in 2006 that "I think it's a great time to start a mortgage company. … The real-estate market is going to be very strong for a long time to come." Then the real estate market collapsed. Trump had hired E.J. Ridings as CEO of Trump Mortgage and boasted that Ridings had been a "top executive of one of Wall Street's most prestigious investment banks." Turned out Ridings had only six months of experience as a stockbroker. Trump Mortgage closed and never paid a $298,274 judgment it owed a former employee, nor the $3,555 it owed in unpaid taxes.
7. Trump Steaks — Trump closed Trump Steaks due to a lack of sales while owing Buckhead Beef $715,000.
8. Trump's Travel Site — GoTrump.com was in business for one year. Failed.
9. Trumpnet — A telephone communication company that abandoned its trademark.
10. Trump Tower Tampa — Trump sold his name to the developers and received $2 million. Then the project went belly-up with only $3,500 left in the company. Condo buyers sued Trump for allegedly misleading them. Trump settled and paid as little as $11,115 to buyers who had lost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
11. Trump University or the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative — Trump staged wealth-building seminars costing up to $34,995 for mentorships that would offer students access to Trump's secrets of success. Instructors turned out to be motivational speakers sometimes with criminal records. Lawsuits and criminal investigations abound.
12. Trump Vodka — Business failed due to a lack of sales.
13. Trump Fragrances — Success by Trump, Empire by Trump, and Donald Trump: The Fragrances all failed due to being discontinued, perhaps as a result of few sales.
14. Trump Mattress — Serta stopped offering a Trump-branded mattress, again likely due to slacking sales.

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Flatlandcoug said:

We know now why you chose your username of stretch. You are reaching so hard here.

You acknowledge his bankruptcies but ignore all of his other failed ventures that didn't end up in bankruptcy but still failed. Trump University, his football team, his stupid Trump steak scam, Trump Shuttle, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, and GoTrump.com (a travel company) were other failed ventures. Those are what I found in two minutes. It's not unusual for a entrepreneur to have some failures but I'd challenge you to find one that is considered successful who has failed as often as Trump.

Trump is a grifter and a snake oil salesman who was lucky enough to be born with $100 million handed to him. If he would have just invested that money in an S&P market fund, he would have $6.3 billion today. His media company that runs Truth Social has boosted his fortunes in the past year, but his net worth was around $3 billion before he created that company. And the reality is that once Trump is not President...the Trump media company is going to collapse along with his net worth. His whole life has been a bumbling series of mistakes where doing nothing would have yielded more gain than his moronic ideas. And let's not forget that it takes a special kind of stupid to fail at the casino business....and Trump did it six times.

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Stretch 74 said:

EVERYTHING in politics is whataboutism. Have you doing a Rip Van Winkle for the past 10 years? But please excuse me for thinking you supported Harris even though I didn't get a good look at your ballot. You can see how easily that mistake could be made, seeing how you seem to come down on the liberal side of every issue discussed here.

Your arguments about Trump are just stupid. It is just like saying that the only reason Tom Brady won 6 super bowls was because Belichek was his coach. The reason Trump had all that money was because he worked for it. Did he have a hand getting started, sure he did, but that was no guarantee of success. See Hunter Biden for Exhibit A. Who cares who else was in the running for The Apprentice? The fact is that he is the one selected to do the show and he made it a success.

How is that research on Trump's track record coming along? Not very well, obviously, since you are still asking how many bankruptcies he had after I already gave you the answer, which is 6. Six. SIX! Got it yet. So he had 6 failures with the Atlantic City casinos, so how many of his other ventures were a success, made him a profit. If are going to discuss his track record, you must evaluate both wins and losses. Can anyone imagine doing that in sports, only paying attention to one side of the W/L columns? Should we declare that the Seahawks were a rousing success this past year because they won 10 games? Yahoo? Ooops, we seem to have forgotten something- the Seahawks also lost 7 games, did not win their division, and did not make the playoffs. You understand that, I hope, because your average 3rd grader would have no trouble with the concept.

Now get out there and get busy with your research!

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1. Trump Airlines — Trump borrowed $245 million to purchase Eastern Air Shuttle. He branded it Trump Airlines. He added gold bathroom fixtures. Two years later Trump could not cover the interest payment on his loan and defaulted.
2. Trump Beverages — Although Trump touted his water as "one of the purest natural spring waters bottled in the world," it was simply bottled by a third party. Other beverages, including Trump Fire and Trump Power, seem not to have made it to market. And Trump's American Pale Ale died with a trademark withdrawal.
3. Trump Game — Milton Bradley tried to sell it. As did Hasbro. After investment, the game died and went out of circulation.
4. Trump Casinos — Trump filed for bankruptcy three times on his casinos, namely the Trump Taj Mahal, the Trump Marina and the Trump Plaza in New Jersey and the Trump Casino in Indiana. Trump avoided debt obligations of $3 billion the first time. Then $1.8 billion the second time. And then after reorganizing, shuffling money and assets, and waiting four years, Trump again declared bankruptcy after missing ongoing interest payments on multi-million dollar bonds. He was finally forced to step down as chairman.
5. Trump Magazine — Trump Style and Trump World were renamed Trump Magazine to reap advertising dollars from his name recognition. However, Trump Magazine also went out of business.
6. Trump Mortgage — Trump told CNBC in 2006 that "I think it's a great time to start a mortgage company. … The real-estate market is going to be very strong for a long time to come." Then the real estate market collapsed. Trump had hired E.J. Ridings as CEO of Trump Mortgage and boasted that Ridings had been a "top executive of one of Wall Street's most prestigious investment banks." Turned out Ridings had only six months of experience as a stockbroker. Trump Mortgage closed and never paid a $298,274 judgment it owed a former employee, nor the $3,555 it owed in unpaid taxes.
7. Trump Steaks — Trump closed Trump Steaks due to a lack of sales while owing Buckhead Beef $715,000.
8. Trump's Travel Site — GoTrump.com was in business for one year. Failed.
9. Trumpnet — A telephone communication company that abandoned its trademark.
10. Trump Tower Tampa — Trump sold his name to the developers and received $2 million. Then the project went belly-up with only $3,500 left in the company. Condo buyers sued Trump for allegedly misleading them. Trump settled and paid as little as $11,115 to buyers who had lost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
11. Trump University or the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative — Trump staged wealth-building seminars costing up to $34,995 for mentorships that would offer students access to Trump's secrets of success. Instructors turned out to be motivational speakers sometimes with criminal records. Lawsuits and criminal investigations abound.
12. Trump Vodka — Business failed due to a lack of sales.
13. Trump Fragrances — Success by Trump, Empire by Trump, and Donald Trump: The Fragrances all failed due to being discontinued, perhaps as a result of few sales.
14. Trump Mattress — Serta stopped offering a Trump-branded mattress, again likely due to slacking sales.

Stretch 74 said:

EVERYTHING in politics is whataboutism. Have you doing a Rip Van Winkle for the past 10 years? But please excuse me for thinking you supported Harris even though I didn't get a good look at your ballot. You can see how easily that mistake could be made, seeing how you seem to come down on the liberal side of every issue discussed here.

Your arguments about Trump are just stupid. It is just like saying that the only reason Tom Brady won 6 super bowls was because Belichek was his coach. The reason Trump had all that money was because he worked for it. Did he have a hand getting started, sure he did, but that was no guarantee of success. See Hunter Biden for Exhibit A. Who cares who else was in the running for The Apprentice? The fact is that he is the one selected to do the show and he made it a success.

How is that research on Trump's track record coming along? Not very well, obviously, since you are still asking how many bankruptcies he had after I already gave you the answer, which is 6. Six. SIX! Got it yet. So he had 6 failures with the Atlantic City casinos, so how many of his other ventures were a success, made him a profit. If are going to discuss his track record, you must evaluate both wins and losses. Can anyone imagine doing that in sports, only paying attention to one side of the W/L columns? Should we declare that the Seahawks were a rousing success this past year because they won 10 games? Yahoo? Ooops, we seem to have forgotten something- the Seahawks also lost 7 games, did not win their division, and did not make the playoffs. You understand that, I hope, because your average 3rd grader would have no trouble with the concept.

Now get out there and get busy with your research!

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dgibbons said:

You don't need to keep showing you're an unserious person. We already know.

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95coug said:

This interpretation makes little sense. NIL is tied directly to an individual’s market value.

Easy enough to get around though. Money just needs to go through the collective and not the school. Or the players need to be employees instead of students.

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mikalalas said:

UNLV is staying in the MWC. UNLV signed a agreement to do so. UNLV leadership has pretty much said that they staying, want to stay in MWC. UNLV would cost 17 mil(exit fee) + Poaching Fee more unless win lawsuit.

UNLV joining PAC 12 ship has long since sailed away. It's probably not going to happen.

Memphis is WORTH 13 mil to 43 mil to join PAC 12.

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froropmkr72 said:

Why do you care to remember this?

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Observer11 said:

We’re playing deep practice players meaningful minutes. Gerrits and Wynott wouldn’t see the floor if Watts and Coward are healthy.

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