BowDown253 said:

Sure. The team that made the CFP twice is the 4th most relevant. Your misery sustains me.

Click to expand...

So you went to the CFP 2 times, and had a championship or 2 in 100 years, with 1 of your 2 CFP's FINALLY(BOUT TIME), happening last season.

WSU won a Natty or equivalent of a Natty, went to 2 Rosebowls, went 11-2 in 2018.

Reason mention that, is a difference between UW, and WSU is that when, if UW has a great season as a outlier, UW thinks it makes them elite, where when, if WSU has a great season, as a outlier, WSU does not think that makes them elite.

Tiers

Elite

Ohio St

Great

Michigan

Penn St

Oregon

USC

Good

Wisconsin

Michigan St

Above average

Nebraska

UCLA

UW

Mediocre, Average

That's 9 teams above you that either better then you, are better historically, are better traditionally, have more money, have better bigger recruiting area, recruiting, and usually better coaching(with the exception of UCLA, and throwing out your 1,2,3 good coaches as exceptions(WSU has had Price, Erickson, Leach, but that doesn't mean that WSU has had great coaching. Those good coaches were the exception, just like the 1,2,3 exception coaches at UW)

Next season. Your going to get pounded by the 9 teams above you. And you won't be getting a favorable schedule, favorable home schedule. And new coach, new players, almost all starters gone, massive defection via Transfer Portal, massive decommits, lower ranked recruiting class, etc

Because of that you'll finish 7-5 at best, 5-7, 6-6 at average, 4-8 at worst.

If USED TO BE ELITE Nebraska, who historically better then UW struggled when they went to Big 10, then UW will probably struggle as well.

Your the 10th best team in the Big 10, middle of the conference, just barely slightly above average, to average, mediocre

Stop being illogical, delusional thinking UW is going to be good, great in Big 10.

Loyal Coug1 said:

And what might "they" (we) be looking for? And at what cost/benefit?

Also, how do you know that the MW will always be available? Before or after the allegedly soon to be broken ACC takes in SDSU and UNLV?

Click to expand...

WSU/OSU is looking to stay P4 wherever they get in with the most money. Can't imagine there's any other long-term goal except that.

If that doesn't happen, the MWC will still be around, and the money joining is likely the same whether WSU/OSU joined now or then.

LeachPack said:

Jealousy is a stinky cologne

Click to expand...

60% of the time Biggs wins every time

Loyal Coug1 said:

And what might "they" (we) be looking for? And at what cost/benefit?

Also, how do you know that the MW will always be available? Before or after the allegedly soon to be broken ACC takes in SDSU and UNLV?

Click to expand...

Where are the MWC schools going to go, since they haven't already gone there? They are schools others don't want. There's been several rounds of realignment. Why would that change?

Loyal Coug1 said:

WTF Gibby. You ask a question - "why the urgency". I reply with 7 reasons why, none of which have anything to do with my personal life, which I don't believe I have mentioned in a long time. So in addition to that inane and off the wall comment, you simply ask the same question. Feel free to disagree with or pick apart any or all of my 7 reasons, or better yet just scroll on by.

Click to expand...

Because none of them are germane to the conversation. Why are any of those urgent? Why would they preclude OSU and WSU from joining the MWC? The ACC is the brink of collapse. The Big XII gets poached constantly.

So again, WHY THE URGENCY to commit WSU to a group of 5 conference? You're basically saying that WSU should settle for the gal at the end of the bar two hours before closing time because it's easy and convenient. Are you really that enamored with the MWC commissioner?

BowDown253 said:

That was more or a timing thing - UW gave it their best effort, but the tv deal George presented was laughable. So they took an option that paid them twice as much and left a dying conference. If you think the B1G wouldn't take UW and Oregon over Maryland/Northwestern/Rutgers etc. you are delusional. When everything breaks apart and teams like Vandy and Northwestern are demoted you will see who is really wanted or not.

Their worst AC loss ever? The one where your high moral team started a sexual assaulter?

91' norm world? You could have just said last year or the year before when we had a better season than the cougs will ever have.

Click to expand...

Ok fine…replace ‘91 with ‘23…they’re only 32 years apart.

How many wins is UW giving up from last year when they had a rapist running the football?

You just gonna ignore this little bit BTW?:

Show me another nationally relevant Big10 program who’s been dogshit for over half of the 2000s. As rough as Nebraska has had it, they haven’t even come close to the depths that UW has explored.

Hell show me another nationally relevant program that’s had a stretch like that, forget the Big10…you can’t. Because outside of a dream season last year when all of the stars aligned, UW hasn’t been. Nobody has given a shit about them south of Eugene or east of the Rockies. And nobody will for the next 10 years either when they are a mid-tier team in their new conference playing sub .500 ball.

CougSinceBirth said:

This is also assuming WSU and OSU want the MWC...

That may be the reality, but patience gives a better shot at getting closer to what they're looking for. The MWC option will be always available.

Click to expand...

And what might "they" (we) be looking for? And at what cost/benefit?

Also, how do you know that the MW will always be available? Before or after the allegedly soon to be broken ACC takes in SDSU and UNLV?

Flatlandcoug said:

I know that Biggs hates Dickert

Click to expand...

Jealousy is a stinky cologne

Coug90 said:

According to the Big10 checkbook UW is 🤷.

Show me another nationally relevant Big10 program who’s been dogshit for over half of the 2000s. As rough as Nebraska has had it, they haven’t even come close to the depths that UW has explored.

And UW was 4-8 just two years ago and suffered their worst home AC loss ever. But keep living in your “91 is the norm” world!

Click to expand...

That was more or a timing thing - UW gave it their best effort, but the tv deal George presented was laughable. So they took an option that paid them twice as much and left a dying conference. If you think the B1G wouldn't take UW and Oregon over Maryland/Northwestern/Rutgers etc. you are delusional. When everything breaks apart and teams like Vandy and Northwestern are demoted you will see who is really wanted or not.

Their worst AC loss ever? The one where your high moral team started a sexual assaulter?

91' norm world? You could have just said last year or the year before when we had a better season than the cougs will ever have.

See?

UberCougars said:

While I have no doubt Grandpa is happy you’re doing your part to support his football fandom, trust me, he would have been happier if you had made it into school.

Click to expand...

Just because you were rejected doesn't mean everyone else was.

Coug90 said:

Sounds like a typical spring game. Last years spring game was one of the most crisp I’ve ever watched, and that didn’t lead to a great season.

The one before ‘18 was sloppy AF.

Click to expand...

Team was pretty good last year. Conference was the best it's been in 20 years.

Flatlandcoug said:

Watched the game last night. Wasn't as bad as I was picturing based on some comments but the split up OL was not very good. Zevi Eckhaus was featured prominently in the highlights scrambling....but after watching the game...that's what he's good at. His ball placement and decision making on passes was not great. He did have a nice final drive for the win though. Mateer is going to be fine and he has certainly matured a lot in one year. His interview towards the end of the game didn't look like he was a brand new starter. He had a few bad passes in the game but also some absolute dimes.

I know that Biggs hates Dickert...but the dude has genuine enthusiasm for the game and the team. His punt in the fourth quarter was hilarious. He was loose and having fun. At one point, the center snapped the ball over the QB's head and right to Dickert...who pitched it back to the QB to keep the play going...but the QB (some rando backup) dropped to the ground. A missed opportunity for that QB to have a fun moment.

This team has a competitive spirit and that showed up late. Most spring games drag on and everyone is bored and wants to just get it over with. In this game, there was a shoving match between a couple players late and the "coaches" were calling timeouts to try and get the "win". The holder handled a pretty bad snap to allow Janikowski to get the field goal to finish the game.

Click to expand...

Sounds like a typical spring game. Last years spring game was one of the most crisp I’ve ever watched, and that didn’t lead to a great season.

The one before ‘18 was sloppy AF.

BowDown253 said:

Sure. The team that made the CFP twice is the 4th most relevant. Your misery sustains me.

Click to expand...

According to the Big10 checkbook UW is 🤷.

Show me another nationally relevant Big10 program who’s been dogshit for over half of the 2000s. As rough as Nebraska has had it, they haven’t even come close to the depths that UW has explored.

And UW was 4-8 just two years ago and suffered their worst home AC loss ever. But keep living in your “91 is the norm” world!

Imagine growing up in Colfax and at 18 years old you have the chance to attend any school in the entire country for free.

While I have no doubt Grandpa is happy you’re doing your part to support his football fandom, trust me, he would have been happier if you had made it into school.

Coug90 said:

Apparently 2002-2015 never happened. You keep going back and forth between 100 years of history and recent history to serve your narrative. Nobody gives two shits East of the continental divide about a program that’s spent over half of the 2000s in the gutter. Oregon beat UW like 14 times in a row during that time FFS.

UW is a mediocre program with a few stretches of success (which not coincidentally pretty much all came with cheating and other scandals…Google Norm Maeling or Victory and Ruins if you need a refresher)

UW is the 4th most relevant team joining the Big10 out of 4, and will be nestled somewhere between Nebraska and Illinois in the pecking order. Right in the middle. Mediocre. And Illinois and every school “below” them will have a financial and geographic advantage over UW. Enjoy another 2002-2015 stretch.

Click to expand...

Sure. The team that made the CFP twice is the 4th most relevant. Your misery sustains me.

BowDown253 said:

They are exactly 25th by win percentage - with 8 teams ahead of them that haven't been relevant since people were going to games via horse and buggy. So that puts them in the 15-20 range as I said. Out of how many division 1 teams??? Hardly mediocre. Continue to cope.

Click to expand...

Apparently 2002-2015 never happened. You keep going back and forth between 100 years of history and recent history to serve your narrative. Nobody gives two shits East of the continental divide about a program that’s spent over half of the 2000s in the gutter. Oregon beat UW like 14 times in a row during that time FFS.

UW is a mediocre program with a few stretches of success (which not coincidentally pretty much all came with cheating and other scandals…Google Norm Maeling or Victory and Ruins if you need a refresher)

UW is the 4th most relevant team joining the Big10 out of 4, and will be nestled somewhere between Nebraska and Illinois in the pecking order. Right in the middle. Mediocre. And Illinois and every school “below” them will have a financial and geographic advantage over UW. Enjoy another 2002-2015 stretch.

As is the Big Sky.

Continue to cope?

With what, exactly.


Use your words.

Loyal Coug1 said:

And what would those pieces be? You guys just keep thinking some magic scenario will present itself. It didn't and it won't. They don't want WSU and OSU. And any scenario that they would, fantasy as that is, would be a shitshow of a f-ed up cobbled-together mess.

I have yet to read any cogent post that describes anything that is realistic. Oh, West coast ACC pod? Oh, spend $60+ million to lure the top MW teams into it? What a bunch of shit. NO ONE in the country, except this board, speaks to anything of the sort. And it would be shit if it happened, which it won't.

Click to expand...

This is also assuming WSU and OSU want the MWC...

That may be the reality, but patience gives a better shot at getting closer to what they're looking for. The MWC option will be always available.

Flatlandcoug said:

You've had a couple nice runs and that's great...but the reality is that even with those runs, your mighty mutts average out to just better than a 7-5 season. In the eyes of actual elite programs....that's pretty mediocre. I remember when things had gotten dicey for so long at UW that you no longer celebrated championships...you celebrated "non-losing" seasons. Bragging about 6-6 is the very definition of mediocre.

As mentioned above, you don't even make it into the Top 25 in terms of winning percentage. To put things into perspective, UW would have to win 206 straight games to get into the Top 10. So, maybe WSU is behind UW, but you are delusional if you think that anyone outside of muttland thinks that UW is a truly elite program.

Click to expand...

They are exactly 25th by win percentage - with 8 teams ahead of them that haven't been relevant since people were going to games via horse and buggy. So that puts them in the 15-20 range as I said. Out of how many division 1 teams??? Hardly mediocre. Continue to cope.

BowDown253 said:

Triggered by me posting the complete records of both of our teams?

How about I repost it and just take out every single winning season UW has ever had to make you feel better.

Do I think UW is Alabama? Clearly not. They would be somewhere in the 15-20 range as far best college programs over history. Hardly mediocre.

Click to expand...

You've had a couple nice runs and that's great...but the reality is that even with those runs, your mighty mutts average out to just better than a 7-5 season. In the eyes of actual elite programs....that's pretty mediocre. I remember when things had gotten dicey for so long at UW that you no longer celebrated championships...you celebrated "non-losing" seasons. Bragging about 6-6 is the very definition of mediocre.

As mentioned above, you don't even make it into the Top 25 in terms of winning percentage. To put things into perspective, UW would have to win 206 straight games to get into the Top 10. So, maybe WSU is behind UW, but you are delusional if you think that anyone outside of muttland thinks that UW is a truly elite program.