Loyal Coug1 said:

Is the statement from the WSP good enough for you? I guess the WSP doesn't actually say he died of COVID, but every news source believes the story. And don't forget the unvaccinated 38-year-old trooper (referenced to in the article) who the WSP did say died of COVID.

"According to FOX News, KIRO News Radio, Newsweek and other media sources, LaMay died after contracting COVID-19."

Wash. state trooper whose resignation over vaccine mandate went viral dies from COVID

Trooper Robert LaMay's took early retirement in October 2021 rather than get vaccinated

www.police1.com

But you be you buddy. I'm done with this stupid thread.

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Hey man, go ahead a believe "the sources" because they always get it right, right?

Arbuckle's krytonite "Drop 8"...

Flatlandcoug said:

I don't begrudge Mateer taking a bag of cash. That said, if WSU offered $2 million, which is a rumor I heard, it says that he's not a "Once a Coug, always a Coug" kind of guy and more of a "I have to look at my own interests first" kind of guy. Like any other player who leaves WSU for another school, he would no longer be worthy of my interest or support. I won't necessarily wish that he fails, but I may have chuckled when Miami choked their way out of a spot in the CFP.

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Is that a thing any more? Will it ever be a thing again?

FWIW, the best thing Mateer had going for him was a Central Arkansas offer. You'd think a D1 opportunity would garner a little more loyalty, but those days are behind us it would appear.

BleedCrimsonandGray said:

I did google it. The KIRO dude and a blogger were the only "sources" reporting it directly. None of them stated how they knew or where they got their information.

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Is the statement from the WSP good enough for you? I guess the WSP doesn't actually say he died of COVID, but every news source believes the story. And don't forget the unvaccinated 38-year-old trooper (referenced to in the article) who the WSP did say died of COVID.

"According to FOX News, KIRO News Radio, Newsweek and other media sources, LaMay died after contracting COVID-19."


But you be you buddy. I'm done with this stupid thread.

BleedCrimsonandGray said:

Disagree.

With the tools he has he could easily make OU a title contender if they play to his strengths. I see a lot of Tebow in his game. With a good pass receiving TE and a legit deep threat that will fight for every ball (ie, a can't-make-a-read-bail-out-player) they will be dangerous on offense.

Arbuckle will ruin his chances because he insists on doing what he wants to do and not what's going to win games, but nonetheless, the opportunity is there and its real.

Just sad he chose to follow a guy who is out of his depth but just doesn't know it yet, and now will drag Mateer down with him.

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The sad truth. End of the day if he invests his $3M ($1.7 after taxes) wisely he will be set up nicely regardless.

I like Mateer and sincerely hope the best for him, but I can’t see a scenario where Arbuckle doesn’t get chewed up by SEC coaches considering how badly he was outmaneuvered against MWC teams. Struggling in the third quarter is a giant red flag for a coach’s ability- anyone can script 15-20 plays with a talented QB.

Oklahoma fans cracking me up thinking they just landed Josh McDaniels and Tom Brady 🤦🏼

Observer11 said:

It's fair in that the oil billionaires will write a $3 Million check to a 20 something while the tech billionaires won't.

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Bingo

Loyal Coug1 said:

Damn. Wish I was surprised. You can't turn down $3M, if indeed that was/is the offer. Hope you got/get it in writing John. Going to a team 166 miles from your hometown for a huge wad of cash? Hate on him all you want, but every single person on this board would do exactly the same thing if in his cleats. So no hate from me.

Only question I have is whether it was Mateer's choice not to play in the bowl or if it was Dickert's. Probably Dickert's. Or Oklahoma's. As compared to ASU's coach who said Portal-bound players were welcome to stay for the playoff game(s).

I guess Eckhaus made the right move to come to WSU after all. We'll be OK.

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I don't begrudge Mateer taking a bag of cash. That said, if WSU offered $2 million, which is a rumor I heard, it says that he's not a "Once a Coug, always a Coug" kind of guy and more of a "I have to look at my own interests first" kind of guy. Like any other player who leaves WSU for another school, he would no longer be worthy of my interest or support. I won't necessarily wish that he fails, but I may have chuckled when Miami choked their way out of a spot in the CFP.

Loyal Coug1 said:

Damn. Wish I was surprised. You can't turn down $3M, if indeed that was/is the offer. Hope you got/get it in writing John. Going to a team 166 miles from your hometown for a huge wad of cash? Hate on him all you want, but every single person on this board would do exactly the same thing if in his cleats. So no hate from me.

Only question I have is whether it was Mateer's choice not to play in the bowl or if it was Dickert's. Probably Dickert's. Or Oklahoma's. As compared to ASU's coach who said Portal-bound players were welcome to stay for the playoff game(s).

I guess Eckhaus made the right move to come to WSU after all. We'll be OK.

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This is the new reality, until rules are set on this crap it will be a free for all

Damn. Wish I was surprised. You can't turn down $3M, if indeed that was/is the offer. Hope you got/get it in writing John. Going to a team 166 miles from your hometown for a huge wad of cash? Hate on him all you want, but every single person on this board would do exactly the same thing if in his cleats. So no hate from me.

Only question I have is whether it was Mateer's choice not to play in the bowl or if it was Dickert's. Probably Dickert's. Or Oklahoma's. As compared to ASU's coach who said Portal-bound players were welcome to stay for the playoff game(s).

I guess Eckhaus made the right move to come to WSU after all. We'll be OK.

Loyal Coug1 said:

Oh, I'll get right on that. Just for you. In the meantime, Google it and pick your reliable news source. Christ I linked Fox News out of a dozen news reports, isn't that reliable enough for you? I usually refrain from personal attacks and insults, so I won't call you an idiotic dipshit. Others can feel free to do so.

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I did google it. The KIRO dude and a blogger were the only "sources" reporting it directly. None of them stated how they knew or where they got their information.

We also need to remember that SSI is under the Social Security umbrella. Talk about a program that is rife with wasteful spending...... ADHD is considered a disability under the program and many single poor mothers are riding that to a free payday. Its not just one child in the household that is receiving this benefit, its MULTIPLE. Also, people living on the streets, in jail, have under-the-table income, receive in-kind benefits from friends and family are all receiving these benefits. SSI goes well beyond the $967/mo (2025 rate) sent to these people. We're talking Medicaid eligibility, food stamps, rent subsidies and/or free housing. The amount of benefits doled out to people who refuse to work is absolutely mind-boggling? But hey, as long as you feel good about keeping people in chained to poverty, lets keep the bene's rolling.

BleedCrimsonandGray said:

KIRO confirmed it how? Someone told them? Sources or its not "confirmed".

This whole era of "well someone told us so its reliable news" without actually confirming it is bullshit. I want a death certificate before its "confirmed", and you better post that shit.

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Oh, I'll get right on that. Just for you. In the meantime, Google it and pick your reliable news source. Christ I linked Fox News out of a dozen news reports, isn't that reliable enough for you? I usually refrain from personal attacks and insults, so I won't call you an idiotic dipshit. Others can feel free to do so.

Microsoft, Google and Facebook, watch startups develop all the time then swoop in with money-bags to lure them away.

I may be petty about this but I am wishing Mateer nothing but the worst at OU. We take time to develop a player and then some whore of a program like OU with deeper pockets comes around and makes him an offer he can’t refuse. College sports absolutely sucks and has been broken because of crap like this.

If all you can afford is FCS moving forward, then that’s the answer.

WSU may indeed end up there but not until we’ve waisted all the cash on salaries of staffers we won’t need moving forward.

UberCougars said:

John Mateer blows Tim Tebow away.

John Mateer is a good college QB with upside who spent much of the season running for his life. Tebow was a 47% passer with no arm on a great team.

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Tim Tebow had Urban Meyer.

John Mateer has Ben Arbuckle.

BleedCrimsonandGray said:

gross.

That BX scooped it, the offer is $3MM, and that he's gone.

I really don't understand how this is supposed to work equitably for G5 schools. If they want it to be a farms system, fine just come out and say it because it is a defacto farm system. But everyone, including WSU admin are acting like it isn't and that WSU and other G5 schools will get an actual chance to compete. I mean, if Jeanty wasn't going to declare he'd 1000% be transferring to another school.

It sucks, it stinks, and above all its lousy being gaslighted (gaslit?) that what's happening isn't actually happening.

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It's fair in that the oil billionaires will write a $3 Million check to a 20 something while the tech billionaires won't.

John Mateer blows Tim Tebow away.

John Mateer is a good college QB with upside who spent much of the season running for his life. Tebow was a 47% passer with no arm on a great team.

UberCougars said:

It’s not fair.

It’s not supposed to be fair. We were left at the alter then kicked out of the reception venue without a drink or a plate.

Everyone knows this and was my #1 reason for recommending WSU take the P-12 windfall, recognize reality and immediately downsize the budget to reflect this new reality.

We chose the Tidy-Bowl Man strategy instead. So, I (we) all play along.

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How much more downsizing is there? CJD will be the last coach paid in that range, after that I expect WSU will have a $1MM budget for head coach and set themselves firmly in the mid to bottom of the G5 schools. Assistants are already getting squat, I expect they'll drop below 6 figures soon. They already have one of the lowest budgets of the BCS schools and middling among G5 schools, so what are you suggesting they reduce? Go FCS budget?

Cam sure hopes so. Geno has pocketed $67,000,000 so far playing football

CFB is dead...... Unless the NCAA gets control of the chaos within the sport, its only going to get worse. I'm not sure how much more I can withstand until I become completely apathetic and lose any and all interest/excitement for WSU Football.

Disagree.

With the tools he has he could easily make OU a title contender if they play to his strengths. I see a lot of Tebow in his game. With a good pass receiving TE and a legit deep threat that will fight for every ball (ie, a can't-make-a-read-bail-out-player) they will be dangerous on offense.

Arbuckle will ruin his chances because he insists on doing what he wants to do and not what's going to win games, but nonetheless, the opportunity is there and its real.

Just sad he chose to follow a guy who is out of his depth but just doesn't know it yet, and now will drag Mateer down with him.

It’s not fair.

It’s not supposed to be fair. We were left at the alter then kicked out of the reception venue without a drink or a plate.

Everyone knows this and was my #1 reason for recommending WSU take the P-12 windfall, recognize reality and immediately downsize the budget to reflect this new reality.

We chose the Tidy-Bowl Man strategy instead. So, I (we) all play along.