95coug said:

I’d also say that in those conference, nearly all of the bottom feeders bring something. They’re good at a sport, they have academics or money. By the time you get to the MWC left-behinds, it’s pretty hard to find anything they bring to the table.

And, to be fair…you could say the same of WSU. We don’t have a sport we’re particularly good in. We don’t have money, we’ve never been an academic school. We have a pretty loyal following, but we’ve seen in the last couple years how much that’s worth…especially when not accompanied by money.

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Its really sad and unfortunate, really.

Could be rose colored hindsight glasses, but I felt like the 90's and early 2000s were a heyday for WSU to grow their brand and school and, for whatever reason, complacency set in. I remember hearing word of the great vet school and upon review, its not very highly regarded in national rankings. For that matter, none of the academics are very highly regarded, including our vaunted Com school.

WSU - where dreams of grandeur go to die.

Coug90 said:

Nice. Do you have any pictures of you hanging out with black people you can share too to prove how not racist

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You’re the one disturbingly obsessed with race.

It’s embarrassing, quite honestly.

Loyal Coug1 said:

Sun Belt Texas State is bigger fish? Bigger than what? NMSU? Certainly not bigger than UNLV, Wyoming, even UNR and SJSU. We sneered at Sac St.

In my humble yet almost always right opinion, the MW has plenty of leverage. Let's see - a scheduling agreement with poaching provisions that the Pac signed, and the exit fee agreement that the traitors signed. Seems like leverage to me. What is the Pac's leverage? The MW was severely damaged by our poaching. Fact. We made no effort to work on the spelled out reverse merger. Fact. The MW gave us a lifeline, with caveats (poaching), then we backstabbed them anyway and cried foul over the agreement that we signed in supposedly good faith. Fact. Case closed.

Reminds me of the old story. A guy comes to a river, and a rattlesnake asks if he will carry it across. They get to the other side and the rattlesnake bites him. The guy sez "Why did you bite me". The rattlesnake sez "you knew what I was when you picked me up". That is about the only argument the Pac has.

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No, Tx St is in the pocket. Depending on settlement, the money may allow for Memphis or Tulane. They won’t announce any school for ‘26 until all schools are solid and signed. Tx St is not the bigger fish obviously.

As far as the contractual poaching stuff goes, if we can’t agree on being non competitive as far as we pay 10m/school but every other conference would pay 0 for poaching, we may as well not discuss. Contract law exists for a reason. If a signed contract was the end all, there wouldn’t be a field of law called contract law.

As far as MWC throwing us a lifeline, we paid over 2x the going rate of a typical FCS @ SEC buy game per game. The MWC then moved all the “good” matchups to their home games and put them mostly on Fox networks for ratings. Smart. Then asked for 4x going rate for 2025. So spare me the lifeline narrative when it benefitted them in multiple ways. They leveraged it to the max.

mikalalas said:

I said semi blue bloods TYPES, like a Duke TYPE, etc.

That does not mean specifically Duke, Kentucky, etc.

And Texas A&M is a semi blue blood, Kentucky type, etc.

Also he got a lot of NON offer, non official visit, etc, interest, etc, from a lot of semi blue bloods.

A lot of those programs had Aaron Glass as their Plan B option, if they didnt get their plan A option. A lot to semi mostly to semi almost all got their Plan A option, and so didnt offer their plan B scholly to him.

Aaron Glass was Very Highly HYPED(Not by me(By the media, recruit rankers, experts, etc.)

But you go ahead and believe what you want, as that won't change, what me, others, etc, saw, heard, etc.

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Again I think he is a very solid recruit very talented and sought after on the west coast but mostly by the second tier west coast teams. But hey we’ve just had two under recruited players, one who is in the NBA who came from D-2 and one moving up the draft boards who started at a D-3 so who knows

95coug said:

Didn’t know the other board still had active forums. Whenever I’ve looked - and it’s been a while - there was only site-posted content, without any user response

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The pay board is active.

I won't pay to have pro WSU propaganda spewed 24/7 with no dissenting opinions allowed.

Loyal Coug1 said:

Just for argument's sake, I saw charts on another board that show that OSU subsidizes Athletics for a couple million more than WSU. Student fees for Athletics are about 3X WSU's. And of course ticket revenues and donations put WSU to shame. Just saying.......

Oh and the other board discovered WW and are having fun ridiculing many of our posters. Of course they revere the Mighty Loyal One. . I invited them to register and join the fun but they just laughed.

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Didn’t know the other board still had active forums. Whenever I’ve looked - and it’s been a while - there was only site-posted content, without any user response

dgibbons said:

The politics are easy and predictable. But, the Legislature hasn't followed through on any threats of budget cuts based on Athletics continuing to run a deficit as far as I know. The practical reality is WSU has been subsidizing Athletics for a long time and will have to continue doing so for WSU to avoid becoming the Nevada of the new Pac. And of course the state was fine with uw helping kill the Pac-12 and a big chunk of WSU Athletics' revenue disappearing.

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Just for argument's sake, I saw charts on another board that show that OSU subsidizes Athletics for a couple million more than WSU. Student fees for Athletics are about 3X WSU's. And of course ticket revenues and donations put WSU to shame. Just saying.......

Oh and the other board discovered WW and are having fun ridiculing many of our posters. Of course they revere the Mighty Loyal One. . I invited them to register and join the fun but they just laughed.

dgibbons said:

Still no receipts. Lying and obsessing are typical behavior from teenage girls. You've proven yourself a congenital liar and Trump obsessed.

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So we are adding the “rubber glue” argument to the arsenal? I apologize to the teenage girl, you are now her much younger sister.

chugspig said:

I fail to see how anyone thinks MWC has good leverage, or more specifically thinks they’d win in the lawsuit regarding pac12 and anti-competitive clauses. If anything, this process will take awhile because there are separate lawsuits being negotiated in the same mediation. Pac vs MWC, Utah State vs MWC and Colorado State vs MWC. Fresno and SDSU cannot sue because SJSU is still a part of the conference and the affiliation excludes them from doing so. Otherwise you’d have more involved. The process is settling poaching fees, exit fees, and money already withheld. MWC is trying to retain UNLV. This isn’t something that takes place quickly. They are drafting settlements while a mediator takes it back and forth between parties and their legal representatives look over the proposals. Lots of moving parts. MWC needs money now to appease their schools, Pac12 needs it to get their bigger fish. Texas St is there already. Both can’t afford to wait to execute their bigger plans, but Pac12 can get to 8 before MWC can pay 25 million to UNLV and AF in bonuses.

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Sun Belt Texas State is bigger fish? Bigger than what? NMSU? Certainly not bigger than UNLV, Wyoming, even UNR and SJSU. We sneered at Sac St.

In my humble yet almost always right opinion, the MW has plenty of leverage. Let's see - a scheduling agreement with poaching provisions that the Pac signed, and the exit fee agreement that the traitors signed. Seems like leverage to me. What is the Pac's leverage? The MW was severely damaged by our poaching. Fact. We made no effort to work on the spelled out reverse merger. Fact. The MW gave us a lifeline, with caveats (poaching), then we backstabbed them anyway and cried foul over the agreement that we signed in supposedly good faith. Fact. Case closed.

Reminds me of the old story. A guy comes to a river, and a rattlesnake asks if he will carry it across. They get to the other side and the rattlesnake bites him. The guy sez "Why did you bite me". The rattlesnake sez "you knew what I was when you picked me up". That is about the only argument the Pac has.

Coug90 said:

There’s one person throwing a tantrum and acting like a teenage girl. And it’s not me

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Still no receipts. Lying and obsessing are typical behavior from teenage girls. You've proven yourself a congenital liar and Trump obsessed.

95coug said:

That's going to be an easy answer from the legislature. "We're $12B short, we're looking at cuts to basic education programs, you're losing research grants and probably losing early outreach programs, and you're raising tuition...but you want us to allocate tax dollars to fund a handful of students who can chase a ball around? Sorry, Madame president...I'd rather get re-elected."

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The politics are easy and predictable. But, the Legislature hasn't followed through on any threats of budget cuts based on Athletics continuing to run a deficit as far as I know. The practical reality is WSU has been subsidizing Athletics for a long time and will have to continue doing so for WSU to avoid becoming the Nevada of the new Pac. And of course the state was fine with uw helping kill the Pac-12 and a big chunk of WSU Athletics' revenue disappearing.

dgibbons said:

Still no receipts. You have no point, you just lie, project and attribute. Why can't you be an adult?

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There’s one person throwing a tantrum and acting like a teenage girl. And it’s not me

UberCougars said:

Since you enjoy racism, here’s more of it, different angle.

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Nice. Do you have any pictures of you hanging out with black people you can share too to prove how not racist you are?

I fail to see how anyone thinks MWC has good leverage, or more specifically thinks they’d win in the lawsuit regarding pac12 and anti-competitive clauses. If anything, this process will take awhile because there are separate lawsuits being negotiated in the same mediation. Pac vs MWC, Utah State vs MWC and Colorado State vs MWC. Fresno and SDSU cannot sue because SJSU is still a part of the conference and the affiliation excludes them from doing so. Otherwise you’d have more involved. The process is settling poaching fees, exit fees, and money already withheld. MWC is trying to retain UNLV. This isn’t something that takes place quickly. They are drafting settlements while a mediator takes it back and forth between parties and their legal representatives look over the proposals. Lots of moving parts. MWC needs money now to appease their schools, Pac12 needs it to get their bigger fish. Texas St is there already. Both can’t afford to wait to execute their bigger plans, but Pac12 can get to 8 before MWC can pay 25 million to UNLV and AF in bonuses.

Coug90 said:

Projecting, but at least learned the quote button.

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Since you enjoy racism, here’s more of it, different angle.

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Coug90 said:

All projection. All coping. Your tantrum has only proved my point further. More cute quips less copying and pasting.

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Still no receipts. You have no point, you just lie, project and attribute. Why can't you be an adult?

dgibbons said:

No projection, no coping. That's what you're doing. You're a congenital liar. You have mental deficiencies.

Bring the receipts: "you think Obama should be prosecuted for some unhinged conspiracy bullshit." Provide the post number where I said that. Do it. Trump, Uber, Biggs have nothing to do with your lies. Why are you so cowardly? Your grandchildren will remember you a congenital liar who spent his life doing nothing but obsessing over Donald Trump.

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All projection. All coping. Your tantrum has only proved my point further. More cute quips less copying and pasting.

Coug90 said:

Be careful. Even though he acts like a teenage girl you may be asked 48 times to prove he has a vag.

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You're the one that obsesses. Bring the receipts.

Coug90 said:

The “Im rubber your glue” argument doesn’t make you not racist either. Keep projecting. Keep coping.

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No projection, no coping. That's what you're doing. You're a congenital liar. You have mental deficiencies.

Bring the receipts: "you think Obama should be prosecuted for some unhinged conspiracy bullshit." Provide the post number where I said that. Do it. Trump, Uber, Biggs have nothing to do with your lies. Why are you so cowardly? Your grandchildren will remember you a congenital liar who spent his life doing nothing but obsessing over Donald Trump.

Loyal Coug1 said:

Meh. I get plenty of likes from Mrs Gibby. Don't need his. :O

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Be careful. Even though he acts like a teenage girl you may be asked 48 times to prove he has a vag.

Coug90 said:

We might see something here i thought id never see. You might get a like from Gibbons.

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Meh. I get plenty of likes from Mrs Gibby. Don't need his. :O

Loyal Coug1 said:

Geezus 90. Either find Gibby's post where he said whatever (although if he did, I'm sure it's long since been edited out). Or, just say you seem to have misquoted him and you concede the argument. Give the little man his moral victory. Be the bigger man and move on. When the Mighty Loyal makes a rare mistake, he owns it and moves on. Because I am all man. Just ask any woman who has known me .

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We might see something here i thought id never see. You might get a like from Gibbons.

Coug90 said:

The “Im rubber your glue” argument doesn’t make you not racist either. Keep projecting. Keep coping.

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Geezus 90. Either find Gibby's post where he said whatever (although if he did, I'm sure it's long since been edited out). Or, just say you seem to have misquoted him and you concede the argument. Give the little man his moral victory. Be the bigger man and move on. When the Mighty Loyal makes a rare mistake, he owns it and moves on. Because I am all man. Just ask any woman who has known me .

dgibbons said:

Get to work congenital liar. I’m calling out your lies, cowardliness and racism. Bring the receipts: "you think Obama should be prosecuted for some unhinged conspiracy bullshit." Provide the post number where I said that. Do it. Trump, Uber, Biggs have nothing to do with your lies. Why are you so cowardly? Your grandchildren will remember you a congenital liar who spent his life doing nothing but obsessing over Donald Trump.

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The “Im rubber your glue” argument doesn’t make you not racist either. Keep projecting. Keep coping.

Coug90 said:

Projecting, but at least learned the quote button.

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Get to work congenital liar. I’m calling out your lies, cowardliness and racism. Bring the receipts: "you think Obama should be prosecuted for some unhinged conspiracy bullshit." Provide the post number where I said that. Do it. Trump, Uber, Biggs have nothing to do with your lies. Why are you so cowardly? Your grandchildren will remember you a congenital liar who spent his life doing nothing but obsessing over Donald Trump.