A desperate act by a departing administration. No way they do this if the chick won.

BSpike76 said:

Doesn’t that seem like restraint of trade? All the lawsuits thus far have resulted in complete free agency in college. When does someone sue about this restraint?

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The NFL is a corporation, and corporations are allowed to restrain themselves. Boeing, Kellogg, Ford, Tesla, and every other business are allowed to choose their employees based on the qualifications they establish internally, as long as they don’t discriminate against protected classes. The NFL gets the same consideration.
The lawsuits have been aimed at the NCAA and college football. That’s a completely different scenario.

There’s absolutely nothing to prevent a junior on the WSU scout team from declaring for the draft and trying to go pro. NCAA rules would allow that, and the NFL would enter his name into the draft. He just wouldn’t get picked.

For anyone who did sue, it would be a waste of effort. The easy defense would be that he wasn’t good enough, or his skills didn’t fit our system, we had someone better, etc. No college player will have any sort of case against the NFL. The Kaepernick fiasco should be evidence of that.

waiting is over, it would seem.

Action phase appears to have entered the chat.

Putin’s serve.

I’m lucky though. I’m old enuff to have been trained by the government how to survive a nuclear strike while in elementary school, so I’m safe.

Coug90 said:

As frail as he may be he still has advisors who are competent in their fields of expertise.

Wait till the toddler in chief and his traveling clown show of yes men and women get the keys again. It’s going to get wild.

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Competent as war mongering chickenhawk pawns of the military industrial complex.

They couldn't wait 60 days.

"Going to get wild'. Does that make you happy?

BiggsCoug said:

The best case scenario is that he leaves. Piss poor coaching isn’t sustainable. The doors will get blown off eventually. He would be wise to be entertaining offers this year.

I 200% agree that firing him after this year is a bad look. You have to wait. And next year could be it. The schedule gets tougher. The players arent getting better. If you can’t start now, on this team, are you really gonna be a super star? Prob not.

The NIL whale isn’t coming. The staff needs to coach. They need to find a way to play good football with lesser talent. They need to find a way to get kids as coached up as possible, as fast as possible, and get moving. There is no more development over years. The kids leave too soon. You gotta get what you can while the getting is good.

The smart chart is knowing what good football looks like and what bad football looks like. This is bad football.

The off season will be interesting.

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The NIL/portal world really encourages schools to form alignments to make themselves developmental sites for the blue bloods. The G5 school takes the recruits and coaches them for a year or two, then they take the pipeline to Ohio state or whatever. The ones who don’t pan out at the big school take the pipeline the other way.

While I hate that model and don’t support it, sometimes it’s best to be first…

Coug90 said:

Let’s put it this way…it may not be the best example cuz TCU has dropped off since, but I remember the game TCU got trounced in a couple years ago. If they had beat Wisconsin in the Sun bowl by 20, I wouldn’t have known about it, and TCU wouldn’t have crossed my mind.

We may not have “belonged” in the playoff but if we’d have snuck in, it’s invaluable publicity for the program regardless of the result. All that is moot I guess.

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I don’t think anyone is going to remember the first round playoff games, because they don’t really matter.

Outside of their immediate fan bases, who remembers a 5/12 game from the NCAA tournament….or the 4/12 game from the 2nd round after an upset in the first? Most people probably don’t even remember who was in the final four, forget about the first round.

I guess more directly comparable to a first round game…who won the liberty bowl last year? Or the New Orleans bowl?

UberCougars said:

So, a sitting President deemed too frail to run for reelection by his own party is supposedly competent enuff to launch missiles into Russia after losing the election.

Still wanna talk about kids playing games?

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As frail as he may be he still has advisors who are competent in their fields of expertise.

Wait till the toddler in chief and his traveling clown show of yes men and women get the keys again. It’s going to get wild.

UberCougars said:

Why should Mateer stay?

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Reasons why Mateer would stay:

1) If our collective can get him $200k and he truly believes that he is a future NFL player he may want to stay in a system he knows. Cam Ward is lucky that he fell into a position with a team that has a decent OL, decent defense and a crap schedule. A lot of transfer QB's struggle. One fumble knocked Ward out of the Heisman lead and a loss to Syracuse or in the ACC championship probably kills his chances. Cam is still the poster child for why Mateer should leave though. USA Today did a review of transfer QB's and found that 55% found success and 45% fell short of expectations.

2) He may love Pullman and WSU. Although loyalty is a rare quality these days....it does exist. We don't know how he feels

3) He may not get all that great of an offer in the end. Anyone looking at him objectively and who watched the New Mexico game film knows that he is not a polished QB. He has a lot of great moments, but all BS aside, if he played well in the third quarter, we would have won that game. The defense was the main problem, but that's a track meet we should have won. Another loss and his stock may start to fall.

Realistically, Mateer is gone and there's not much we can do about it. That said, it won't take an amazing QB for us to be 9-3 or 8-4 next year. We have a lot of available wins on the schedule, particularly if our defense quits sucking.

Seems as though you want him to leave just so you can be right.

UberCougars said:

Why should Mateer stay?

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you tell me.

If I'm him staring down a 7 figure payday on a team with a natty chance I'm probably leaving.

M-I-Coug said:

What do you mean?

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We were 3-12 from in the 1st half many of which were clean looks. 2nd Half 4-10 but overall if you take away 4-6 from I Watts the rest of the team was 3-16. I think we can do better but are just in a bit of a funk.

SaveFerris said:

Still missing a lot of good looks.

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What do you mean?

Still missing a lot of good looks.

Yeah, he was a beast. Especially from 15 in and around the basket.

Calmese came out of the locker room with his wrist wrapped. Not sure how serious. Cedric Coward was the as advertised version.

UNCO is a decent team. They were 3-1 coming in. They beat SDSU and only lost to Colorado by 2.

CougEd said:

I am comparing adjustments.....Doba didn't make them against Oregon and trust me I could find other examples as well.

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So now you're saying Doba was a bad defensive coach? That has not been your position on here historically.

BleedCrimsonandGray said:

I won't give to NIL until the agreements have some teeth.

I refuse to be part of the free-agent system that looks to destroy the ability for mid and small tier teams to ever be competitive.

• no sitting out bowl games
• min NIL deal for incoming freshmen is 2 years. ok to leave for NFL, not for another team

What else?

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Why should Mateer stay?

Cougini5591 said:

I'm figuring out more on your logic Biggs and you're more right than wrong.

WSU has had the greatest coaches ever in the past. Seriously... why measure short now when we have feasted at the table?

My argument back at you is that we're sitting in a new battlefield now and until we have a NIKE donor... we have to gamble and be penny conscious until Butch parts the Cougar sea.

We can't be an ounce of stupid when it comes to firing. If we get 10 wins this year... we'd look like idiots to chop our Dickert off.

You should be screaming for him to succeed and be great and stay or to be great and leave.

Sitting in a rocking chair in front of the house chanting "get off my lawn" doesn't score high on the smart chart

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The best case scenario is that he leaves. Piss poor coaching isn’t sustainable. The doors will get blown off eventually. He would be wise to be entertaining offers this year.

I 200% agree that firing him after this year is a bad look. You have to wait. And next year could be it. The schedule gets tougher. The players arent getting better. If you can’t start now, on this team, are you really gonna be a super star? Prob not.

The NIL whale isn’t coming. The staff needs to coach. They need to find a way to play good football with lesser talent. They need to find a way to get kids as coached up as possible, as fast as possible, and get moving. There is no more development over years. The kids leave too soon. You gotta get what you can while the getting is good.

The smart chart is knowing what good football looks like and what bad football looks like. This is bad football.

The off season will be interesting.

CougSinceBirth said:

I mean, tOSU's Maurice Clarett and USC's Mike Williams tried, right? And had both had to sit out a year and train individually for the following year's draft and were not allowed back to school.

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Took a long time to get NIL and portal, also, but they happened.

BSpike76 said:

Doesn’t that seem like restraint of trade? All the lawsuits thus far have resulted in complete free agency in college. When does someone sue about this restraint?

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I mean, tOSU's Maurice Clarett and USC's Mike Williams tried, right? And had both had to sit out a year and train individually for the following year's draft and were not allowed back to school.

CougSinceBirth said:

Because the majority of players aren't going pro, there should be guardrails for student-athletes.

It's an NFL rule that players must go to college for three seasons (true junior or RS soph), so that's already their free developmental league.

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Doesn’t that seem like restraint of trade? All the lawsuits thus far have resulted in complete free agency in college. When does someone sue about this restraint?

CougEd said:

95....when have they been able to block?

We act like Leach was a juggernaut. Remember when Leach was going to light it up against another MWC in BYU on 2012? Remember 30-6 ? Their defensive minded head coach rushed 3, dropped 8. Care to guess who BYU's head coach was in 2012? (hint...we saw him on Saturday Night) They set the blue print for how to defend this offense. Justin Wilcox and Jimmy Lake, not brain surgeon's, had no problem stopping the air raid.

The adjustment that should have been made was playing 2 TE's in second half. But we have always struggled running the ball.

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Are you channeling Sponge? Why did he give up posting by the way?

Heavy formations shifts more defenders into the box Ed. Not what you want for an OL that struggles to run block.