Why would anyone want to veto election integrity?
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Trying to find pictures of the hilarious graduation prank that WSU Accounting students played on Gregoire....
I'm assuming you mean Barack....my voting record:
1988: Bush
1992: Bush
1996: Bob Dole
2000: Bush
2004: Bush
2008: McCain
2012: Romney
2016: Not Trump
2020: Not Trump
2024: Not Trump
Hilarious. And also a good idea.Trying to find pictures of the hilarious graduation prank that WSU Accounting students played on Gregoire....
I’m sure nothing remotely like that will happen this fall with puppet master Bob F.
Of course it’s not zero. Nothing is ever zero. I couldn’t file my taxes one year because someone made a manual error at the SS office and put the wrong birthday in for me. So yeah when there’s hundreds of millions of voters there’s going to be a few discrepancies. And guess what that’s gonna happen with or without mail in voting. But a handful of cases doesn’t add up to 10s of thousands of votes that decided the election.
It’s a convenient excuse when you lose, just like bitching about the refs when you lose by 4 touchdowns.
Yup you’re not alone. This is basically my parents voting record, and they will never vote for a R again, right or wrong, because of Trump and his far right looneys. What cracks me up is these people think it’s not possible that Biden won, yet there’s millions of voters who fall into this exact category.
This is what your hero has done to the party. Flush his fat ass and get back to being conservative republicans instead of the traveling circus.
I liked Bob Dole. Never forget his Pepsi commercial (link below, at the end).
bob dole pop commercial - Search Videos
Back to conservative republicans? Bush 1 and 2, McCain and Romney were not conservative republicans. They were 100% Republicans in name only who were Charmin soft, in the camp of the globalist elites and loved firing up the war machine.
Trump has brought more people into the Republican party than any of those 4 candidates ever did. This election DJT will garner 20-25% of the black vote and 40-50% of the latina vote. That is unprecedented.
Are there never Trumpers who left the party and will never come back (like your parents)? Sure there are and that is fine, let them wander in the political wilderness the rest of their lives. The GOP is never going back to the days of "go along to get along" where Republicans rolled over and showed their bellies and never fought back.
If a "Republican" voted for Biden over Trump they don't belong in the party. Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.
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It cracks me up that all the people chiming in "I'm not a Liberal" on this board. Show of hands. Which of you voted for Barry?
If you voted for Barry you are a liberal.
Cmon...I want a show of hands.
We know Flounder isn't a Liberal. He told us he firmly has a fence post lodged up his ass taking the Cowards route of an Independent Moderate.
I have only voted for democrats once. Never voted for Barry. Let's see I wanted Ron DE Santos, Cruz, Rubio, the African American Brain Surgeon. I did not think think Trump would be a good choice for Republicans, or would win it. Then Trump did both good and bad things. I didn't vote for him. When Trump caused Jan 6 riots, I started supporting, wanting Joe Manchin, Tulsi Gabbard to win. Let's see voted for Ross Perot. When I was newly able to vote. Voted for a populist, constitutionalist party candidate. Voted third party against both trump and hillary. Trump vs Hillary, who can't stand both of them. Altho her husband Bill Clinton worked with newt to do work first welfare reform, wanted him impeached because whether its Nixon, Hillary, Trump, Schumer, Waters, if your a candidate, a felon, then if your a candidate, or sitting president, no one is above the law, and it's time we changed the laws, so that if candidates, sitting president's break laws, get convicted, are felons, etc, then they get auto impeached, because before 1776, the crown, parliament, government was above the law, commoners, peasants etc, and the founding fathers, many a good man fought, died for a freedoms, this country just so that a king, congress, government in britain would not be above the laws, that would send us to jail for years, if we did what Bill Clinton, Nixon, Trump, etc, did, etc.
Voted for Bush Senior, Bush Junior. I'm semi conservative to semi moderate, to libertarian, to constitutionally party, populist party, that usually votes for Republicans. Manchin, lieberman, Zen Miller, John F Kennedy, Tulsi Gabbard. were great democrats, who believe in doing the right thing over the libtards, communist, socialist, black panthers, acorn, Bill Aires, etc, who have hi Jacked the party of John F Kennedy, the working man party. And Trump has hi jacked the party of Lincoln, abolitionist(civil war), that ram rodded the 13th amendment down the KKK southern democrats throats.
Also liked how Martin Luther King put LBJ in his place, and George Wallace the governor of Alabama in his place, as shown in the movie Selma, about the march to Montgomery Alabama. (I admit to being a history buff).
Corrine, Martin Luther Kings wife, in a interview revealed that she supports the Republicans efforts against, black lives matter and regrets that al Sharpton, Obama, and a lot of blacks worship thug Mike brown the heroe of Ferguson, who almost killed a 5-5 Asian store owner over cigars, cigarettes.
Corrine is Jesse Jackson, And Al Sharpton, and obama's worst enemies.
Also same for Candace Owen's, who supports Trump.
A lot of Trump supporters have the best of intentions, but don't get why most independents, Republicans will support Nixon, Trump, convicted felons etc. Biggest Mistake Ford made was pardoning Nixon, who should have been impeached, not allowed to resign, and belongs behind bars, right next to Bill, Hillary, Trump, LBJ, etc, that's more important then people's pocketbook, as there are more important things then money like killing Hitler, like killing Slobadan Milosivec, Like Killing Saddam Hussein, Alqaeda Bin Laden, etc. Barry takes credit, but those that killed Bin Laden were put in place by George Bush Jr, etc.
How would I love to have another Ford, Abraham Lincoln, President John Quincy Adam's who as a lawyer helped free the Slaves of the Amistaad Ship in Amistad movie, etc, but that probably won't happen because of the silliness of people who want Pelosi, Schumer, Waters, the squad, Bill Hillary, Trump, the extremist in both parties to be the nominee's, instead of Manchin, Tulsi Gabbard, Ross Perot, etc.
I also like Winston Churchill, And Margaret Thatcher, who saved Britain from the libtards, socialist, communist, Marxist, etc, by following Reagans, and Bush Seniors example by making sure the British people, both the wealthy and the poor, and the middle class got tax breaks, that gave EVERYONE more money, that they spent getting jobs, starting business, boats, houses, etc, to where almost everyone had a lot more money, who all then paid a low flat tax, and that raked in so much money, that Margaret Thatcher then used that money to pay off British govt Debts. She also cut government programs, cut spending, balanced the budget following things she learned from JFK Kennedy, Reagan, Bush Senior, etc.
She laid, created the blueprint on how you run a democratic country like Great Britain, until LIBTARDS, SOCIALIST, COMMUNIST, MARXIST FORCED HER OUT, AND THEN JACKED SPENDING UP, RAISED TAXES FOR EVERYONE, AND WENT DEEP INTO DEBT AGAIN, ETC, kind of like what the Squad, others are doing to USA, trying to turn USA, Great Britain, into another Russia, Venezuela, where a gallon of milk sells for about $13 to $23 dollars in American dollars, or Russian currency, or Venezuela currency..
Can't wait for a hamburger to sell for $100, because of dumb libtard policies.
We would have a 3 party system, if Ross Perot had won, instead of pulling out early, then reentering back into race.
That said Ross got Bill Clinton elected over Bush senior, because Ross split the republican vote.
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Hitler brought more people into fascism in Germany than any candidate before him. Popularity amongst less than half of the population is not a mandate for greatness. The Republicans of the 80's and 90's had their flaws but they were good people trying to do good things for our country and the world. Mistakes were made but it was always with the idea that the US and the world was going to be better with their efforts.
Trump's isolationist policies may foster better relations with countries like Russia, North Korea, Afghanistan, Somalia and the like....but it creates strife in the rest of the world and his plans are the type of plans that lead to world wars. Our country was the greatest country in the world because of our involvement in world politics. Trump loves to yell about "Make America Great Again" but he doesn't realize that his polices are more 1920's and 1930's.....not the 1960's when US power and influence was growing. Again, not everything we did back then was perfect but our actions were based on the idea that we were making greater good in the world....not worrying about how many mansions we could build in our country while regular people can't afford to buy houses at all.
Well said. And the simple fact is, which I’ve said several times before, changing demographics don’t favor the party right now. Trumpers are aging and dying, new voters are overwhelmingly democrat. The party is going to take decades to recover from the orange stain and those who have bent the knee to him.
Please keep trying this theory. It has been getting you smoked in elections for years now and will continue to do so.
Zero proof? I don't know about proof, but there have been a lot of legitimate questions over the years. Christine Gregoire and Dino Rossi, a few years back, she won by 139 votes after 3 counts after a couple hundred ballots mysteriously appear in a drawer. No fan of Rossi and I sure as hell didn't vote for him, but there was a lot of strange stuff going on, Rossi won the first 2 counts Gregoire won the last one. As for mail in ballots, my Mom passed away a several years ago, and I received a ballot in the mail for her for 3 years after she passed, I could have filled it out, but I didn't. Generally speaking, our elections are 97%+ plus accurate, but to suggest that all the votes are counted correctly 100% of the time is a stretch. Al Gore had a case in Florida, and Hillary still claims she was robbed. There are ballot issues, harvesting, stuffing boxes, a lot goes on. Generally speaking the elections are accurate, but like anything else if life there is always some type of fraud or illegal activity going on. I can assure you that there are non US citizens that are voting in our elections.
In Brazil of all places, you are required to vote in their general elections if you wish to have your drivers license renewed. The day is a Holiday, so you don't have an excuse for not making it in, not suggesting that's a good idea, but it is something they do to improve election integrity. Asking for some type of ID that proves you have the right to vote isn't asking for much. If anyone can vote without showing ID or a voter registration, you will always hear about Election integrity. I'd like to think in this high tech world we live in there is an easy way to accomplish this. I have no problem with mail in ballots, but the voter rolls need to be update annually.
I don't think that's feasible. Elections mainly fall under state law, so it would be messy trying to centralize it. And peoples' jobs would be eliminated.
I'll pose to you the same question ED is refusing to answer. Should Biden authorize an assassination of Trump? Biden is immune. Biden has repeatedly stated that Trump is a threat to democracy and an existential threat to our country.
Below are the numbers from the article which was written on March 28th of this year by CNN (not a conservative site by any stretch of the imagination)
The New York Times/Siena College, NBC News, Wall Street Journal and CBS News/YouGov all released national polls a few days apart earlier this month, each of them found Trump winning from 20% to 28% of Black voters and 45% to 48% of Hispanic voters. That’s far more than the 12% of Black, and 32% of Hispanic, voters he won in 2020
And since the debate you have to believe those numbers are moving even more in Trumps direction.
96, don't let the facts get in the way of your lame attempt to add any semblance of truth to this thread. Like I said earlier, probably best if you just remain on the sidelines.
Not ignoring you Flat. Just need to get some work done. Will get back to this nonsense later today.
WTF are you talking about. Get back on the sideline you dolt
Ok if you need me to spell it out for you because you are mentally deficient, here you go.
In 2016 Trump garnered 8% of the Black vote and 28% of the Hispanic vote.
How Groups Voted in 2016 | Roper Center for Public Opinion Research
In 2020 Trump garnered 12% of the Black vote and 32% of the Hispanic vote
How Groups Voted in 2020 | Roper Center for Public Opinion Research
Demographic Group Biden Trump SEX Men 48 45 53 Women 52 57 42 RACE White 67 41
Polls for 2024 show that Trump is garnering 20+% of the Black vote and 40-45% of the Hispanic vote. I already included the CNN link in post #46 above.
We both know you aren't a smart man but I would hope you at least possess some basic math skills. These numbers for Trump have been trending upward for the past 8 years which of course is the lefts biggest nightmare. Strike that, the lefts biggest nightmare is the corpse with dementia who has his crack addict son as his chief of staff and refuses to give up his post because he is as delusional as you are.
All good points TrumpC, but these numbers are trending in his direction yes? He won the first election and lost the second election, I don’t call that a positive trend overall. Maybe he has gained momentum with blacks and Hispanics but seems like he’s shitting the bed with women and not to beat a dead horse but overall age demographic changes are not his friend right now.WTF are you talking about. Get back on the sideline you dolt
Ok if you need me to spell it out for you because you are mentally deficient, here you go.
In 2016 Trump garnered 8% of the Black vote and 28% of the Hispanic vote.
How Groups Voted in 2016 | Roper Center for Public Opinion Research
ropercenter.cornell.edu
In 2020 Trump garnered 12% of the Black vote and 32% of the Hispanic vote
How Groups Voted in 2020 | Roper Center for Public Opinion Research
Demographic Group Biden Trump SEX Men 48 45 53 Women 52 57 42 RACE White 67 41
Polls for 2024 show that Trump is garnering 20+% of the Black vote and 40-45% of the Hispanic vote. I already included the CNN link in post #46 above.
We both know you aren't a smart man but I would hope you at least possess some basic math skills. These numbers for Trump have been trending upward for the past 8 years which of course is the lefts biggest nightmare. Strike that, the lefts biggest nightmare is the corpse with dementia who has his crack addict son as his chief of staff and refuses to give up his post because he is as delusional as you are.
I agree with you that debate was a blow to Biden, but people tend to forget what happened yesterday and there’s plenty of time for Biden to recover any ground he lost.
LMAO.....do you really believe he will recover ground? The WH is in turmoil, the democratic party is fractured more so than I have ever seen in my lifetime. He is a dead man walking.
Women always have and always will trend left. That is because the majority of women are fueled by emotion not by logic (call me a misogynist but I speak the truth). That being said the abortion issue which got the left over the top in 2020 and 2022 midterms is way down the list in terms of importance. The economy/inflation, crime and the border are now way ahead of the abortion issue in terms of "importance"
Americans’ Top Policy Priority for 2024: Strengthening the Economy
Growing shares of Republicans rate immigration and terrorism as top priorities for the president and Congress this year.
www.pewresearch.org
Also the younger generations are waking up and moving in Trumps direction.
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mail in voting works perfectly fine, we have been doing it in Oregon for years.they match every signed ballot to the signiture on file in the elections office. I even had mine rejected once due to a sloppy signiture, so don't think they arent being checked
Trump recovered after the Billie Bush hot Mike. People have shorter attention spans than you think.LMAO.....do you really believe he will recover ground? The WH is in turmoil, the democratic party is fractured more so than I have ever seen in my lifetime. He is a dead man walking.
Women always have and always will trend left. That is because the majority of women are fueled by emotion not by logic (call me a misogynist but I speak the truth). That being said the abortion issue which got the left over the top in 2020 and 2022 midterms is way down the list in terms of importance. The economy/inflation, crime and the border are now way ahead of the abortion issue in terms of "importance"
Americans’ Top Policy Priority for 2024: Strengthening the Economy
Growing shares of Republicans rate immigration and terrorism as top priorities for the president and Congress this year.
Also the younger generations are waking up and moving in Trumps direction.
That said Biden doesn’t have a lot of wiggle room for negative news in the next few months, whether that’s economy/inflation, global diplomacy, homeland threats, etc. any of those could trip him up and they are all legit concerns I’m sure.
It's this sort of "you're with us or you're against us" thinking that magnifies division and moves further toward the extremes. People used to realize that there's a spectrum of opinions and beliefs, and that talking to other people leads to compromise and solutions that most people can be satisfied with...even if it's not exactly what they wanted. Too many people have lost the ability to listen, and now think that any idea that isn't 100% what they want is not worth their time. Worse, they'll reject things that they actually want for the sake of optics, or just because they weren't the ones who thought of it.
I don't think Joe will be able to do the things people are now demanding of him. He doesn't have the energy to fulfill his duties as president (even if he's only shaking hands with the girl scout who sold the most cookies, etc.) and campaign. I'm genuinely concerned the stress and grind will be more than he can handle, especially given that he's been hidden so much.
But what do I know, I figured he would only last to July of 2022.
Well that’s going to be how he’s portrayed by the Rs, as a tired old man and justifiably so after that debate performance, so it’s on him to prove otherwise.
Well, I don't believe that a President has that kind of immunity and I believe that a future court is going to throw out this decision as a partisan fraud that should have never happened. So, in that sense, I don't think he should.
Also, as much as I despise the Donald, I can't morally support murdering him. Trump is a horrible human being, but I don't think that it's Joe's place to make the decision to take him out. Immune or not, we would truly be a Banana Republic if our President is out there ordering the assassination of political rivals, no matter how much of a scumbag that I might think that they might be.
Would I shed a tear if something happened to the Donald? Nope.
If Biden can quell the mutiny, you'll see it to some extent. The rhetoric and talking points are already out there- it was a bad day, Trump is a liar and threat to democracy, etc.
I still have the feeling that something behind the scenes broke wide open during the debate that we haven't seen yet. Biden's decline has been obvious.
This is exactly why there should be age limits on the presidency. How many 80 year olds can consistently get through a full day of meetings and appearances, peppered with complex & important decisions, with frequent overnight interruptions to hear about and/or deal with things happening on the other side of the world? How many have the mental acuity to process and act on this kind of information even when they’re well fed and rested…let alone when they’re running on 3 hours sleep?
So, is the "threat to democracy" rhetoric BS?
I'm not in favor of prosecuting Biden for the drone strike that killed the Afghan aid worker and nine other people, are you?
Not requiring ID to vote is anti American. Illegals don't deserve a dime and sure in the hell don't deserve the right to vote. I'd rather my tax dollars go to infrastructure, veteran housing, Maui, etc.
How exactly are illegal aliens getting ballots to vote with?
Oh right, they aren't.
I don't know how frequently it happens, but it would not be difficult.
Here's the form you fill out to register to vote in Washington: https://www.sos.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2023-07/VRF_English.pdf. All you have to do is check the box claiming to be a citizen, and then enter a number as your SSN or driver's license number.
Lots of illegals have SSNs that are valid. They don't actually belong to that person, but they still work.
Lots of illegals also have drivers licenses, because licenses don't require proof of citizenship. They require evidence of residency and confirmation of identity. The accepted forms of ID are at https://dol.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-11/ID-requirements.pdf.
So, you can get a driver's license and register to vote based on a bogus SSN and some foreign documents, as long as you're willing to sign the certification. Nobody's really checking, so the risk of getting caught and prosecuted is virtually zero...especially in a Republican administration that's just going to deport you and have your name taken off the voter rolls. Then all you have to do is sneak across the border, pay for another SSN, and start over again.
What the Hell is wrong with you, 95? Not only are you saying the quiet part out loud, you are demonstrating exactly how it is done! Shame on you.
It happens the same way in CA, BTW, and I doubt that those are the only two states that operate that way.
I have no problem with absentee ballots. When ballots are mailed out to who know who that is a real slippery slope. Drop boxes should never exist anywhere.
