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WSU at New Mexico game thread....

The NIL/portal world really encourages schools to form alignments to make themselves developmental sites for the blue bloods. The G5 school takes the recruits and coaches them for a year or two, then they take the pipeline to Ohio state or whatever. The ones who don’t pan out at the big school take the pipeline the other way.

While I hate that model and don’t support it, sometimes it’s best to be first…

You can only play so many kids at a time. Kids move in, kids move out. A staff’s ability to get kids prepared and coached up as fast as possible is really important now. Those staffs that can will move forward. Those staffs that cant will tread water barely able to keep their head up.

I would wager we will see the talent spread out a lil bit more.

Missiles into Russia

I don’t think we will ever not have several thousand nukes pointed at us.

That said, Flats point is really the only one to consider regarding strategy. Do we have a hard line with dictators and despots or do we kiss their asses and hope for the best. I’m not saying one is definitively going to work better than the other but you should know what you voted for…I know I do.
You voted for an empty vessel that would have been filled by the D establishment and defense industrial complex, and a few hundred thousand more dead Ukrainians. Or maybe war with Iran.

Missiles into Russia

Russia has about 5000 nukes. China has about 500. Not sure about North Korea. Ball park, I'd say every American has a couple thousand pointed at us.
I don’t think we will ever not have several thousand nukes pointed at us.

That said, Flats point is really the only one to consider regarding strategy. Do we have a hard line with dictators and despots or do we kiss their asses and hope for the best. I’m not saying one is definitively going to work better than the other but you should know what you voted for…I know I do.

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Cedric Coward ties career-best with 30 points in WSU men’s victory​

Greg WoodsNov. 18, 2024 at 10:05 pm
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The Spokesman-Review
PULLMAN — A certain inevitability hangs in the arena when Cedric Coward decides to take matters into his hands. Washington State’s best player is so good because of his two-way ability, because of his natural scoring savvy, because of his game smarts and veteran experience.

But the Cougars knocked off Northern Colorado Monday night, 83-69, in large part because Coward decided to take over in the scoring column. The senior totaled 30 points, his most on the season, including 20 in the second half, taking things from closer to cushiony for the 4-1 Cougs. Coward also scored 30 last season against Northern Colorado when he played for Eastern Washington.

“I wouldn’t call it hunting my shot. I just say it’s being aggressive and assertive and making the right play,” Coward said. “Some days it would be me being aggressive like this and dropping 30, as you see. And then other days it would be aggressive and having 12 assists. As long as I’m making the right play for my teammates, that’s the main goal.”

It was a timely development for WSU, which was coming off a defeat to Iowa in Illinois, where Coward totaled only 9 points in 33 minutes. The game before, in WSU’s win over Idaho, he posted 4 points on 3 shots. He was still playing well, still making the right plays, but he wasn’t looking for his shot as actively as coaches would like.

So on Monday night, he snapped out of it, responding with an ultra-efficient 12-for-18 showing, including 2 for 6 from deep. He did it the only way he knows how: By staying in control and getting to his spots. He recognized mismatches when he got them and wasted no time taking advantage, banking in several flip shots and getting to the rim with ease.

Part of making those changes, coach David Riley figured, comes baked into his offense. He doesn’t call a play every time down the court, letting his players pass and make reads and attack when they see openings. In that type of laissez-faire approach, he says, it becomes easy to “float a little bit at times.”

“So I thought he’s adjusted,” said Riley, whose team returns to action Thursday against his former squad, Eastern Washington, on Thursday at Spokane Arena. “It was great to see, and just proud of him. We knew it was coming. He’s such a high-character guy, and he’s gonna have a great season for us. So it was good to get him back on that.”

The Cougs needed it in the second half. About seven minutes into the second half, after hanging around for much of the game, the Bears took the lead on a corner three-pointer. The Cougars were giving up too many offensive rebounds — Northern Colorado turned 11 offensive boards into 6 second-chance points — and the Bears knocked down eight three-pointers total.

In that stretch, Riley said, the hosts were going through the motions, playing “random” on offense. It was less active and more passive, and even with the Cougs’ giant size advantage on the interior, they didn’t always cash in. When one action didn’t work, they didn’t always put a second one in gear.

So what changed? To Riley, it was a lineup that included guards Isaiah Watts and Kase Wynott and power forward ND Okafor, a group that “played with some force and energy,” Riley said. After the Bears tied the score at 55-all, the Cougs responded with an 18-7 run, which featured three baskets from Coward and two from Watts, who tallied 12 points on four triples, plus six rebounds. That put WSU up double digits.

For Watts, it was the end of a rough stretch. Over his past three games, he misfired on 13 straight triples, an uncharacteristic development for a guy whose catch-and-shoot game makes him so effective. He was frustrated enough that on Monday morning, when he got some practice shots up with his dad, Donald, he broke down crying.

“Just because it’s like, I feel that’s what I do, that’s what I’m here for,” Watts said. “And to not be able to do it at my best, it was really emotional for me. So just to hit a couple today feels really good.”

Another uncharacteristic part of Monday’s game: Guard Nate Calmese, who recorded 27 points on Saturday in Illinois, managed only 4 points in 21 minutes. At one point, he wrapped a towel around his head on the bench. At another, he came off the floor with an injury, and as he walked to the locker room with a trainer, he shouted in frustration.

Riley, who said the team will evaluate Calmese’s injury in the days to come, added that’s the kind of thing that can happen after a big scoring night. He might not be the head of the snake at WSU — that title likely belongs to Coward — but he is the point guard. That prompts opponents to key in on him.

“He’s another guy that’s still learning,” Riley said. “Learning the offense, learning the different details on it. Northern Colorado knows us pretty well, so they had some good plans against us. But he’s a hooper, and he’ll bounce back.”

Riley added that WSU is hoping that wing Rihards Vavers, who has been out since the season-opener with a wrist injury, and freshman guard Marcus Wilson, can return “in the next game or two.”

Greg Woods; Washington State beat writer for The Spokesman-Review

Missiles into Russia

It's typical American arrogance to assume that Putin's actions are driven solely by the President of the USA. Russia didn't rush into Ukraine as soon as Trump left, so it's a bit myopic to say that it wouldn't have happened if Trump had been re-elected in 2020. Nobody knows what will happen once Trump is in, but it is safe to say that he will cut off funding to Ukraine and that is going to force Ukraine to try to find a peaceful diplomatic solution that includes Russia gaining new territory.

Now, history suggests that "peaceful diplomatic solutions" where the aggressor had a net gain usually leads to that aggressor being more aggressive in the future. We'll see how things actually play out. The one thing that I can say with confidence is that the world is not a better place when Russia is feeling that it's ok to act aggressively.

I know that the MAGA world is infatuated with Trump and suffers from their own version of TDS, but Ronald Reagan is tossing and turning in his grave as a result of the lack of world leadership displayed by Trump in the past and likely in the future. Isolationism didn't work in the 1930's and it will not work out well for us today.
Acting as the world's police force hasn't exactly been awesome. In case you missed it the defense budget is not keeping pace with inflation, the military cannot hit its recruitment numbers, and procurement has been awful.

The average age of a Ukrainian solider is 43. So, math tells us that for every 20 year old there is a 60 year old. If there is any coherent policy from Biden on Ukraine, it appears to be to provide enough aid for Ukraine not to lose, but not enough aid to win. Good for Raytheon shareholders, but not so good if you're a Ukrainian. Ukraine will run out of people and bullets before Russia does. So, what is your solution? Seems like three possibilities to me: (1) NATO boots on the ground and a shooting war with Russia; (2) the status quo of providing aid and Ukraine being slowly ground down and hoping for the possibility that Putin dies or gets ousted before Ukraine collapses and the new guy is more dove-ish which is a significant assumption; or (3) force a peace deal.

As long as you’re under 60, you’re eligible for the Ukraine International Legion.
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Bowl Prospects

I don’t think anyone is going to remember the first round playoff games, because they don’t really matter.

Outside of their immediate fan bases, who remembers a 5/12 game from the NCAA tournament….or the 4/12 game from the 2nd round after an upset in the first? Most people probably don’t even remember who was in the final four, forget about the first round.

I guess more directly comparable to a first round game…who won the liberty bowl last year? Or the New Orleans bowl?
Fair comparison. I remember first round NCAA games and who got in more than I remember who won the NIT, but that’s just me.

And I remember the four teams in the playoff, which had they gone to another bcs bowl not related to the playoff I’d have forgotten.

Seattle Times ~ As money floods college sports, WSU’s Cougar Collective trying to keep up..

The NFL is a corporation, and corporations are allowed to restrain themselves. Boeing, Kellogg, Ford, Tesla, and every other business are allowed to choose their employees based on the qualifications they establish internally, as long as they don’t discriminate against protected classes. The NFL gets the same consideration.
The lawsuits have been aimed at the NCAA and college football. That’s a completely different scenario.

There’s absolutely nothing to prevent a junior on the WSU scout team from declaring for the draft and trying to go pro. NCAA rules would allow that, and the NFL would enter his name into the draft. He just wouldn’t get picked.

For anyone who did sue, it would be a waste of effort. The easy defense would be that he wasn’t good enough, or his skills didn’t fit our system, we had someone better, etc. No college player will have any sort of case against the NFL. The Kaepernick fiasco should be evidence of that.
Were nil and related lawsuits class actions or individuals? Seems it was some of each. Would class action be more successful?

Missiles into Russia

Putin did nothing during Trumps first term.

He invaded Crimea during Obama. He invaded Ukraine during Biden. He invaded Georgia during Obama

Please to be identifying Putin’s sweeping through Europe during a Trump presidency.

It's typical American arrogance to assume that Putin's actions are driven solely by the President of the USA. Russia didn't rush into Ukraine as soon as Trump left, so it's a bit myopic to say that it wouldn't have happened if Trump had been re-elected in 2020. Nobody knows what will happen once Trump is in, but it is safe to say that he will cut off funding to Ukraine and that is going to force Ukraine to try to find a peaceful diplomatic solution that includes Russia gaining new territory.

Now, history suggests that "peaceful diplomatic solutions" where the aggressor had a net gain usually leads to that aggressor being more aggressive in the future. We'll see how things actually play out. The one thing that I can say with confidence is that the world is not a better place when Russia is feeling that it's ok to act aggressively.

I know that the MAGA world is infatuated with Trump and suffers from their own version of TDS, but Ronald Reagan is tossing and turning in his grave as a result of the lack of world leadership displayed by Trump in the past and likely in the future. Isolationism didn't work in the 1930's and it will not work out well for us today.

Missiles into Russia

I’m not sure what you’re referencing here. I’m not sure what the “right” move is with Russia at this point. I’ll say, it’s quite the dilemma when you’ve got an ally who’s been invaded by Russia and currently at war with them while an incoming US administration is led by a Russian asset. That said it’s not surprising to see some unorthodox moves at this point. I’d imagine when Trump takes office, he’ll pull back and let Putin resume his sweep of Eastern Europe which he’s been patiently waiting on Trumps return for. I could be wrong but we can revisit in a few years and see how things are going over there. 🤝
Putin did nothing during Trumps first term.

He invaded Crimea during Obama. He invaded Ukraine during Biden. He invaded Georgia during Obama

Please to be identifying Putin’s sweeping through Europe during a Trump presidency.
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Missiles into Russia

I’m not sure what you’re referencing here. I’m not sure what the “right” move is with Russia at this point. I’ll say, it’s quite the dilemma when you’ve got an ally who’s been invaded by Russia and currently at war with them while an incoming US administration is led by a Russian asset. That said it’s not surprising to see some unorthodox moves at this point. I’d imagine when Trump takes office, he’ll pull back and let Putin resume his sweep of Eastern Europe which he’s been patiently waiting on Trumps return for. I could be wrong but we can revisit in a few years and see how things are going over there. 🤝

Bowl Prospects

What's to be embarrassed about? College football already kicked WSU and OSU to the curb. I say **** them all, and let's take some of their precious money they're generating by kicking us to the curb.
Not so fast, my friend.

WSU needs to use that money to pay as many administrators it can for as long as it can.

Now is not the time to be taking risks by waisting money on expansion.

Seattle Times ~ As money floods college sports, WSU’s Cougar Collective trying to keep up..

Doesn’t that seem like restraint of trade? All the lawsuits thus far have resulted in complete free agency in college. When does someone sue about this restraint?
The NFL is a corporation, and corporations are allowed to restrain themselves. Boeing, Kellogg, Ford, Tesla, and every other business are allowed to choose their employees based on the qualifications they establish internally, as long as they don’t discriminate against protected classes. The NFL gets the same consideration.
The lawsuits have been aimed at the NCAA and college football. That’s a completely different scenario.

There’s absolutely nothing to prevent a junior on the WSU scout team from declaring for the draft and trying to go pro. NCAA rules would allow that, and the NFL would enter his name into the draft. He just wouldn’t get picked.

For anyone who did sue, it would be a waste of effort. The easy defense would be that he wasn’t good enough, or his skills didn’t fit our system, we had someone better, etc. No college player will have any sort of case against the NFL. The Kaepernick fiasco should be evidence of that.
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