Fauci did a terrible job on AIDS.
The Covid vaccine should not be compared to the polio vaccine. Three doses of the polio vaccine is 99-100 effective. Last time I checked, a Covid vaccine kind of works for about six months.
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The Covid vaccine should not be compared to the polio vaccine. Three doses of the polio vaccine is 99-100 effective. Last time I checked, a Covid vaccine kind of works for about six months.
No...he had both of them at the same period of time. Both when his wife was taking care of a six month old. I understand you are ok with a person who has the desire to dictate. And that isn't from the media, it is from his own people who worked under him.
I have seen as much cognitive decline in Trump as I have in Biden. He thought he was in one state giving a rally when he was in another. Said Joe Biden would start WW2. Talk about non sense about a shark and boats that run on battery power. Slurred all sorts of words.
But your point is taken. One person who has said he wants to suspend the constitution, the other does not. One said he wants to go after his political rivals, the other did not.
Way easier to say I like a convicted felon, libel rapist, multiple time adulterer who has lied more than the last 20 presidents combined vs comparing "felonies" vs misdemeanors." Way easier to say I like tax cuts.
Why isn't Biden authorizing Seal Team 6 to neutralize the Donald? Biden is immune. Trump is an existential threat to democracy.
Better question- why aren't you demanding it?
The answer of course is that the "democracy" rhetoric is all BS, but it lands with the Democratic base. Kind of funny how Newsom, Whitmer, etc. seem focused on running in 2028, which is well after the Donald proclaims himself Fuhrer.
Wait...so I understand, when the polio vaccine came out it was 99-100% effective? Did polio "morph" like covid did? When Covid 19 was studied and had the first trials it was seen as 90% effective preventing transmission. That is what the science said.
Again, how did Fauci do a horrible job with aids?
But again, tell me what Fauci did despite doing a bad job with aids. His job and ethics were never questioned.
Biden certainly has immunity....
And if you are wrong? Doesn't land with Jon Bolton, Mark Millie, or Mark Esper because they are dems and lands with their base. They saw what he is capable of.
Keep trying....
Say you wanted to screw over your clients and embezzle from them, but your partners prevented you from doing it. Doesn't mean you didn't try, simply means it didn't happen with those partners. You go to another firm with partners that agree with your ethics.
You are making the same arguments the Germans and the Italians made early on. Nothing to see here, hasnt happened. Just cause Hitler said he wanted to execute Jews, it didn't happen early on so nothing to see there.
Speaking of cognitive decline.... And let's be honest, you didn't start at a high point anyway. You are the one pairing polio and Covid vaccines. Perhaps use your thinking cap before doing so.
His job and his ethics were questioned on AIDS. Scroll down to HIV/AIDS epidemic.
Anthony Fauci - Wikipedia
Are you afraid of the truth ED?
Biden is immune. Pull the trigger. Think of how important it will be viewed by historians. Eliminating an internal threat to our great country's foundation- democracy. Biden himself has said numerous times that Trump and his supporters are the greatest threat. Here's a little reminder.
You may have noticed that prosecution of a political rival has actually occurred during the Biden administration.
So, Biden = Hitler?
Wait a minutue Gibby. A few posts ago you said "Fauci did a terrible job with AIDS". Now you say "his job and his ethics were questioned". Your Wikipedia reference says no such thing, with his principal critic eventually calling him a "true and great hero".Speaking of cognitive decline.... And let's be honest, you didn't start at a high point anyway. You are the one pairing polio and Covid vaccines. Perhaps use your thinking cap before doing so.
His job and his ethics were questioned on AIDS. Scroll down to HIV/AIDS epidemic.
Anthony Fauci - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
You are a strange one. You make flippant comments like the above, then you link information that pretty much says the opposite. Perhaps you need to get into line behind Biden for those cognitive tests? Dementia can be early onset ya know.......
I'm responding to ED's post. Those are ED's words. I answered the question ED posed.
Nope.. I wish Biden did tell Garland to start from day 1 to investigate Trump and Jan 6th on January 21.
Garland waited a year. This trial would have hine off no later than December but he waited and hoped it would go away until the committee found some really damming stuff.
They tried to get docs for months. Trump hid and moved them .
Any other cases you want to nlame on Biden?
Now you tell me on what grounds he would ho after Cheney ?
Are you disputing that Biden has prosecuted a political rival? I honestly can't tell from what you wrote above. I don't know what grounds there would be for going after Cheney (I assume you mean Liz).
Are you going to bother answering why Biden shouldn't assassinate Trump? Biden is immune and Trump is an existential threat to democracy. Or is the realization that the Ds and the media are totally full of BS too painful?
Hey 90 - are you picking on me or Gibby? I'm not following. In fact I'm never sure where you are at (not meant as an insult). Your posts seem to go back and forth. Which is fine - hey I'm an independent moderate.....
OK, counselor. Biden didn't prosecute anyone. He is not the AG, and is not the head of the Justice Dept. You think the leader of the free world has nothing better to do than try to smear a defeated, lying opponent for F-ing a porn star, and all the other shit that he did? Biden did this, Biden did that. Biden personally opened up the gates on the border and let in these criminals and insane people.
Now if we were talking about trump, I could probably buy his personal involvement in shit like this. "Hey Brad, find me 11,000 votes". Hey Michael, pay off the bunny and porn star that let me F them (and probably threw up after).
OK. Then according to you, no sitting president could prosecute anyone because the sitting president is not the AG. All concerns are now put to bed, right? Trump will not be the AG, and if re-elected and will not be the head of the DOJ, so Trump can't prosecute any political rivals. Crisis averted.
Let's give full credit to Loyal here (note the bold and italics for emphasis). He has masterminded the solution to the problem (whether it be real or perceived) of weaponizing the DOJ against political opponents. Since the president is not the AG, the president cannot prosecute a political opponent. It really is that simple folks.
If you bother paying attention Biden spent plenty of time smearing Trump before Trump declared for 2024.
You're kinda exposing your ignorance of how the process of vaccines work. Some are REALLY effective, some not as much (specificality). Most all are way above the randomized figure of 50%. I believe the shingles vaccine is 90+ effective, very similar to the COVID vaccine.
Why do you continue to provide cover and arguments for the demonstrably wrong sides of the argument while simultaneously claiming you are not actually a supporter of those arguments?
Demonstrate DIRECTLY that Biden has prosecuted a political rival. You cannot.
And just because Biden hasn't, doesn't mean trump COULDNT, or wouldn't. But, I'm not concerned about that right now. However, it IS one of the remaining "norms" he hasn't violated.
Do you think trump shouldn't have been prosecuted for ANY of the things he's been charged with? ANY? Simple question.
Low hanging fruit.
Federal prosecutors declined to charge Trump on the Stormy Daniels hush money case. The Manhattan district attorney Alvin Bragg made a campaign promise to prosecute Trump. It was a novel theory and ultimately successful. So, I do not believe Trump should have been charged in that specific case.
And you’re saying the same thing that Loyal is trying to say. Biden is not a prosecutor. So, he cannot directly (your word) prosecute anyone. Nor could Trump.
No shit. Perhaps you should point that out to ED. Since he’s the one trying to equate a polio vaccine to the Covid vaccines.
If one didn't have comorbidities, vulnerabilities to Covid: Chances of dying from covid: About .33 of 1%: Ridiculously low.
This was after the beginning of the onset of Covid. For the first 3 to 6 to 9 months of Covid, the mortality rate was higher: About, around about 3 to 5 to 7%, if weren't a person at risk.
In the extreme very beginning the mortality rate for those not at higher risk was about 15 to 23%.
By Year 2,3 the Mortality rate for those not at higher risk, was about .09 of 1% to .17 of 1%.
Mask, Vaccines lowered those Ridiculously low mortality rate chances to die from Covid even more almost impossible to die, low chances, for those not at higher risk, not more vulnerable
Even those that more vulnerable, and at same time never wore mask, never vaccinated, and still went out in public, etc: Ms Cranefield, was one such 70 year old lady, that didn't get Covid until 18 months ago, did not die of, from Covid, and still alive.
Flu Mortality rate: .20 of 1% mortality rate(higher then Covid.
No he's just demonstrating that an effective vaccine is required to participate in either school or aau sports. COVID was an effective vaccine. How is it's requirement different? Do you claim it wasn't effective?
This is what you asked from #498 to loyal:
Are you disputing that Biden has prosecuted a political rival?
Simple question...are you claiming he has? He clearly HAS NOT prosecuted a political rival.
With the DOJ being independent (it is upon you to show how and where they are not, since you are inferring this) we all can see where garland has not prosecuted trump. All the other cases are from local jurisdictions. Do you dispute this?
I claim that the supposed effectiveness of the Covid vaccines was greatly oversold. Notably you have not defined “effectiveness.” I have no doubt that some people benefited from the vaccines. But get serious and specific about what you mean by effective. I’ve had Covid three times. Twice were within nine months of a vaccine. That is not unique. Fifty-four percent doesn’t seem all that effective to me.
Updated Covid vaccine has 54% effectiveness, new data suggest
New data released Thursday by the CDC suggest that the most recent Covid-19 booster offers about 54% percent protection against infection with the virus.
www.statnews.com
In contrast, 99-100 percent seems pretty effective to me. And that’s without an annual booster.
Polio Vaccine Effectiveness and Duration of Protection | CDC
Information about the effectiveness of the polio vaccine and how long it provides immunity against poliovirus.
www.cdc.gov
Wait law clerk - you said elsewhere that "Biden" has prosecuted his political rival. Get your stupid BS straight. Good goddam thing that you spend your days in a back office. If you had to get up in front of a judge and jury you would be skewered.
I appreciate the link. I respect statnews. If you are arguing that the COVID vaccine shouldn't be considered on the same level as polio or measles, I agree. But this study and article show that it is at least or more effective as a seasonal flu vaccine, which are constantly evolving and shifting.I claim that the supposed effectiveness of the Covid vaccines was greatly oversold. Notably you have not defined “effectiveness.” I have no doubt that some people benefited from the vaccines. But get serious and specific about what you mean by effective. I’ve had Covid three times. Twice were within nine months of a vaccine. That is not unique. Fifty-four percent doesn’t seem all that effective to me.
Updated Covid vaccine has 54% effectiveness, new data suggest
New data released Thursday by the CDC suggest that the most recent Covid-19 booster offers about 54% percent protection against infection with the virus.
In contrast, 99-100 percent seems pretty effective to me. And that’s without an annual booster.
Polio Vaccine Effectiveness and Duration of Protection | CDC
Information about the effectiveness of the polio vaccine and how long it provides immunity against poliovirus.
There really is no serious doubt that the COVID vaccines in all their iterations has had a positive effect on outcomes of those either infected or potentially infected. Agreed?
It was to ED, not Loyal and it was post 496. You’re struggling.
Identify the law that makes the DOJ independent. The president has the authority to nominate and fire the Attorney General. The Attorney General is a member of the cabinet.
Actually no. Why aren't you snuggled up to wifey? Perhaps she has a headache again?
I agree that you should lecture ED about his decision to bring up polio vaccines and Covid vaccines in the same post.
You sure seem to be fixated on my drinking habits, law clerk. Hell, I just might get drunk tonight yet. Since after my long and successful, mostly management career, I am retired early and can do whatever the F I want. Got a problem with that, frat boy Coug?
Not yet buddy, getting there. I see you are not romping your long-neglected wife yet. Pretty confident that the incredibly sexy, virile and agile Loyal One would make her laugh at your pathetic lovemaking attempts forever. Lots of other neglected wives could attest to this prowess of mine. Hah Hah. Yours will too, if I run across her.
Unless she is as ugly as you, in which case I might have to down a six pack before rocking her world. Hahahahaha.
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