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I thought the same thing. Not a good look for him. PAC 12 ain't A ball. He was a big fish in a little pond at LaSalle.Kid came in with "chip on his shoulder" to prove Eastern Washington kids were being slept on. Doesn't last spring semester before his freshman year. Tell me why we should recruit WA kids again?
Kid came in with "chip on his shoulder" to prove Eastern Washington kids were being slept on. Doesn't last spring semester before his freshman year. Tell me why we should recruit WA kids again?
One trip thru the state. Whoever is interested, great. Otherwise, next flight to LA.
I thought the same thing. Not a good look for him. PAC 12 ain't A ball. He was a big fish in a little pond at LaSalle.
But...but...but...WE WON'T HAVE ANY STATE OF WASHINGTON KIDS!!!!One trip thru the state. Whoever is interested, great. Otherwise, next flight to LA.
Waste of a scholarship and makes EWA look bad.Kid came in with "chip on his shoulder" to prove Eastern Washington kids were being slept on. Doesn't last spring semester before his freshman year. Tell me why we should recruit WA kids again?
Problem is the coaching staff looked at him and felt he had the chops. They liked him early. One look at his film showed someone who was a Big Sky talent who might be able to contribute at the MWest level if he brought a lot of heart.
Every coaching staff has it's misses. But you don't want to be missing on guys every else correctly wrote off.
But...but...but...WE WON'T HAVE ANY STATE OF WASHINGTON KIDS!!!!
Fools gold.
Exactly. Give me the best 25 kids to win the most games - doesn't really matter where they're from.Oh well. Sign 20 kids from SoCal every year. Have an army of kids coming up. Create a support network for parents. Make WSU an easy choice cause there are so many kids coming up.
Or chase in state kids that wont be bothered to visit campus.
Problem is the coaching staff looked at him and felt he had the chops. They liked him early. One look at his film showed someone who was a Big Sky talent who might be able to contribute at the MWest level if he brought a lot of heart.
Every coaching staff has it's misses. But you don't want to be missing on guys every else correctly wrote off.
Oh well. Sign 20 kids from SoCal every year. Have an army of kids coming up. Create a support network for parents. Make WSU an easy choice cause there are so many kids coming up.
Or chase in state kids that wont be bothered to visit campus.
I think the only EW kid on the roster with a schollie is Marsh and he was a walk-on.
it’s a bit baffling to be honest.
Spot on, 11.There hasn't been all that much talent coming out of the 509 for the past few years. There was an amazing run during the Sankey/Halliday/Travis Long era but its really tapered off. There was the kid out at CV (Brandon Thomas) who probably had the chops to play at the D-1 level but cancer took his leg - really tragic but a cool story overcoming adversity.
A lot of that is the youth programs aren't as focused as they once were. I'm familiar with a lot of the dads that were coaching during that time and, quite honestly, they had more chops than virtually every high school program out there. Some really accomplished athletes and professionals.
Not sure about down in the Tri Cities but football just ain't the thing it once was in Spokane. It's all basketball, all the time now.
Exactly. Give me the best 25 kids to win the most games - doesn't really matter where they're from.
Spot on, 11.
There was a coach back in the 70's in Wenatchee named Lee Bofto who had some amazing runs at Wenatchee High School. He did it by developing kids starting at the youth football level. He or one of his coaches were at every game and he made sure every team ran HIS offense and HIS defense. He actively scouted and started talking to players at both junior highs in the 7th grade. By the time they hit their sophomore year the linemen knew their assignments and the backs, receivers and defensive side of the ball had their roles down to a T. Made it easy for he and his staff to focus on turning a bunch of farm boys into beasts. The guy really invested a lot of time into early development.
Bacon deserved a schollie this year and the staff told him to get lost. Rolo is a clown until proven otherwise.There hasn't been all that much talent coming out of the 509 for the past few years. There was an amazing run during the Sankey/Halliday/Travis Long era but its really tapered off. There was the kid out at CV (Brandon Thomas) who probably had the chops to play at the D-1 level but cancer took his leg - really tragic but a cool story overcoming adversity.
A lot of that is the youth programs aren't as focused as they once were. I'm familiar with a lot of the dads that were coaching during that time and, quite honestly, they had more chops than virtually every high school program out there. Some really accomplished athletes and professionals.
Not sure about down in the Tri Cities but football just ain't the thing it once was in Spokane. It's all basketball, all the time now.
Bingo. No good player is flying over 75 other D-1 schools to come to WSU from east of the Rockies. Total waste of time recruiting down there.Imo, it does matter where they’re from. I lived in Texas. Sports talk radio there shit all over WSU for its “high school stadium.” There are no kids that want to leave Texas for WSU. You arent going to go down there and get kids that wanna be in Pullman.
Same for Florida. Could you find a few guys that shake out for you? Yes. Are you getting the ROI you need? Prob not.
Take 20 from SoCal. Fill in with WA and HI. Call it good.
Imo, it does matter where they’re from. I lived in Texas. Sports talk radio there shit all over WSU for its “high school stadium.” There are no kids that want to leave Texas for WSU. You arent going to go down there and get kids that wanna be in Pullman.
Same for Florida. Could you find a few guys that shake out for you? Yes. Are you getting the ROI you need? Prob not.
Take 20 from SoCal. Fill in with WA and HI. Call it good.
I think the only EW kid on the roster with a schollie is Marsh and he was a walk-on.
it’s a bit baffling to be honest.
Bingo. No good player is flying over 75 other D-1 schools to come to WSU from east of the Rockies. Total waste of time recruiting down there.
I was more thinking along your lines...there's plenty of talent on the West Coast alone (and mostly So. Cal) that WSU can use their resources much better.Imo, it does matter where they’re from. I lived in Texas. Sports talk radio there shit all over WSU for its “high school stadium.” There are no kids that want to leave Texas for WSU. You arent going to go down there and get kids that wanna be in Pullman.
Same for Florida. Could you find a few guys that shake out for you? Yes. Are you getting the ROI you need? Prob not.
Take 20 from SoCal. Fill in with WA and HI. Call it good.
What your not getting is that even if WSU ONLY gets about 1 3 star, or 1 3.5 star or 1 4 star either per each of the 50 states, or every other state or at least 13 to 23 states, in the country to come to WSU per about every 1,2,3,4, years, that is very realistic, doable, and Mike Price, Mike Leach, and Kyle Smith has PROVED it, DONE IT.
Thats a lot of 3 star, 3.5 star 3.75 star, lowest ended 4 stars coming to WSU, and thus causing WSU to win more games(Assuming a ok, good coach), because WSU, coaches spending a LOT of money on things like Travel expenses, Social Media, etc, to do that.
LEAVE NO Semi highly rated UNTURNED ROCK UNCHECKED.
How many 3 star, 3.5 star, 3.75 star, 4 star, 4.5 star kids does Kyle Smith Talk to around the Nation? A LOT probably HUNDREDS.
And where are they all from, from ALL OVER THE WORLD.
Heck if the only way to get a 5 star were to goto the moon to talk to a 5 star recruit on the moon, he Smith would do it.
That is why Kyle Smith has brought in more 3 stars, 3.5 stars, 3.75 stars, 4 stars, 4.5 stars, and the highest rated bball recruits, classes in all of WSU's 115+ year history, and has gotten a class a high as 27,28,29th, and. Another class that is rated about 39th.
And Smith did that by GOING NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL.
And I know you will say that Mens Basketball and Mens Football are different.
But since Mike Price, Mike Leach have joined Smith in getting a LOT of 3,4,5 star recruits to goto WSU by going NATIONAL, INTERNATIONAL, THEN THAT PROVES YOU ARE WRONG, AND ARE ILLOGICAL AS MR SPOCK WOULD SAY.
YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS BIGGS, BUT TRYING TO LIMIT WSU TO JUST ONLY SO CAL, ETC, IS NOT ONE OF THE THINGS YOUR RIGHT ABOUT AND IS ONE OF THE THINGS YOUR WRONG ABOUT
Now your being the EL C of the Football board. El C would argue until he blue in the face that that Smith is a BAD recruiter, despite the evidence to the contrary, and just like that you will argu to your blue in face that Price, Leach, Smith should just only recruit So Cal, and not go NATIONAL, INTERNATIONAL,despite the evidence against you.
At least I can be proven, persuaded that I am logically wrong, when I thought I was right, when I had my what I thought was logical reasons for thinking that I was right, and I admitted that the counter logic, thought, argument made sense and that I was probably wrong.
I have never ever seen you admit, be proven your wrong on, about football, WSU Football, etc.
I am not the ultimate expert. But hey even tho I am not the expert, i can, do think logically.
And I am telling you that it is ILLOGICAL to say or think that Price, Leach, Smith, etc, shouldnt go NATIONAL, INTERNATIONAL, when they have had SOOO MUCH EFFIN SUCCESS IN RECRUITING GOING NATIONAL, INTERNATIONAL, and should instead just have stayed in So Cal.
ILLOGICAL BIGGS, DOES NOT COMPUTE.
PLEASE HELP ME COMPUTE THIS.
Bingo. No good player is flying over 75 other D-1 schools to come to WSU from east of the Rockies. Total waste of time recruiting down there.
I was more thinking along your lines...there's plenty of talent on the West Coast alone (and mostly So. Cal) that WSU can use their resources much better.
I was more thinking along your lines...there's plenty of talent on the West Coast alone (and mostly So. Cal) that WSU can use their resources much better.
Yes. WSU is a 3 star development school. The 4 star kids are far and few between. They wont even step on campus. Why go to Texas or Florida to find developmental kids when the West Coast is full of them???
Yes. WSU is a 3 star development school. The 4 star kids are far and few between. They wont even step on campus. Why go to Texas or Florida to find developmental kids when the West Coast is full of them???
Agree with just about everything from most here about where to recruit and what resources to deploy, but re Kershaw's case, we don't know much. May have had some kind of freak injury that ended his career. It happens, especially when you're in drills with players your equal or better, not some kids at Granger or White Swan. Of course, he could have just suffered some adversity or shock and threw in the towel. We just don't know.
Re Texas or Florida, it's complex. If WSU is viewed as a threat by some programs' media minions, they may talk about WSU's "high school stadium," and we're not going to be able to go in and pull several top players from a major league. That said, WSU / Pullman also are viewed more positively by Texas and Florida kids than kids from the Puget Sound, SoCal, and other west coast areas. They haven't had WSU's purported inferior status and Pullman being at the end of the earth inculcated since birth. So recruiting some players there in a targeted way can make sense. Those places are so loaded with P5 talent that even if the major in-state P5 schools pass on them, they can still play. Our most recent commitment is a 3-star OL from Texas who committed to WSU over ASU, among other places. Not offered by Texas, Oklahoma, A&M, or even Baylor or Oklahoma State, but likely more feasible to get his commitment than if you took that same player and had him playing in Federal Way.
The disagreement is just at the margin, though, if at all. Most of our talent should come from California, and it's feasible for WSU to recruit there. I'd like to WSU explore more inefficiently-recruited areas like the islands.
Agree with just about everything from most here about where to recruit and what resources to deploy, but re Kershaw's case, we don't know much. May have had some kind of freak injury that ended his career. It happens, especially when you're in drills with players your equal or better, not some kids at Granger or White Swan. Of course, he could have just suffered some adversity or shock and threw in the towel. We just don't know.
Re Texas or Florida, it's complex. If WSU is viewed as a threat by some programs' media minions, they may talk about WSU's "high school stadium," and we're not going to be able to go in and pull several top players from a major league. That said, WSU / Pullman also are viewed more positively by Texas and Florida kids than kids from the Puget Sound, SoCal, and other west coast areas. They haven't had WSU's purported inferior status and Pullman being at the end of the earth inculcated since birth. So recruiting some players there in a targeted way can make sense. Those places are so loaded with P5 talent that even if the major in-state P5 schools pass on them, they can still play. Our most recent commitment is a 3-star OL from Texas who committed to WSU over ASU, among other places. Not offered by Texas, Oklahoma, A&M, or even Baylor or Oklahoma State, but likely more feasible to get his commitment than if you took that same player and had him playing in Federal Way.
The disagreement is just at the margin, though, if at all. Most of our talent should come from California, and it's feasible for WSU to recruit there. I'd like to WSU explore more inefficiently-recruited areas like the islands.
Yes. WSU is a 3 star development school. The 4 star kids are far and few between. They wont even step on campus. Why go to Texas or Florida to find developmental kids when the West Coast is full of them???
Yes. WSU is a 3 star development school. The 4 star kids are far and few between. They wont even step on campus. Why go to Texas or Florida to find developmental kids when the West Coast is full of them???
Bummer. Thanks for the update, 90. Wish the kid a bright future in whatever path he chooses.According to the Yakima Herald, Kershaw gave up football because of a back injury.
"La Salle graduate Ryan Kershaw’s chance to play football for his “dream” school, Washington State, came to an abrupt end late last week.
Kershaw, who practiced during the Cougars’ spring drills last month, is stepping away from the sport because a previous back injury began to give him trouble again, a source said."
Back injury sidelines Ryan Kershaw's WSU football career before it got going
La Salle graduate Ryan Kershaw’s chance to play football for his “dream” school, Washington State, came to an abrupt end late last week.www.yakimaherald.com
You think we could do some due diligence on a local kids injury history.According to the Yakima Herald, Kershaw gave up football because of a back injury.
"La Salle graduate Ryan Kershaw’s chance to play football for his “dream” school, Washington State, came to an abrupt end late last week.
Kershaw, who practiced during the Cougars’ spring drills last month, is stepping away from the sport because a previous back injury began to give him trouble again, a source said."
Back injury sidelines Ryan Kershaw's WSU football career before it got going
La Salle graduate Ryan Kershaw’s chance to play football for his “dream” school, Washington State, came to an abrupt end late last week.www.yakimaherald.com
Maybe, maybe not.You think we could do some due diligence on a local kids injury history.