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I don’t agree, but wtf is he supposed to say? He’s trying to attract recruits and portal kids of course he’s going to praise his players at the highest level. Wouldn’t do much good if he was like…yeah he might make it in the nfl, but probably not.“High level NFL guy.”
Jake Dickert
Can’t wait to see Kiper’s draft rankings.
Mahomes, Flacco, Allen and about 29 other NFL QB's and I got a laugh out of this.“High level NFL guy.”
Jake Dickert
Can’t wait to see Kiper’s draft rankings.
Don't have Mel's wisdom, but here is tankathon's rating, with the first number being their overall draft rating. Bo Nix sure has some amazing numbers! :“High level NFL guy.”
Jake Dickert
Can’t wait to see Kiper’s draft rankings.
Don't have Mel's wisdom, but here is tankathon's rating, with the first number being their overall draft rating. Bo Nix sure has some amazing numbers! :
1
Caleb Williams
QB | USC
6'1" 215 lbs
PASS YDS 3633
TD 30
INT 5
PCT 68.6
RATING 170.1
3
Drake Maye
QB | North Carolina
6'4" 230 lbs
PASS YDS 3608
TD 24
INT 9
PCT 63.3
RATING 149.0
7
Jayden Daniels
QB | LSU
6'4" 210 lbs
PASS YDS 3812
TD 40
INT 4
PCT 72.2
RATING 208.0
20
Michael Penix Jr.
QB | Washington
6'3" 216 lbs
PASS YDS 4903
TD 36
INT 11
PCT 65.4
RATING 157.1
31
Bo Nix
QB | Oregon
6'2" 213 lbs
PASS YDS 4508
TD 45
INT 3
PCT 77.4
RATING 188.3
34
J.J. McCarthy
QB | Michigan
6'3" 202 lbs
PASS YDS 2991
TD 22
INT 4
PCT 72.3
RATING 167.4
100
Cameron Ward
QB | Washington State
6'2" 223 lbs
PASS YDS 3736
TD 25
INT 7
PCT 66.6
RATING 145.4
You're dumb. More like 6Don’t they know “he is a high level NFL guy?”
uw would have won the title by 5 touchdowns in Cam played for them.
Pretty cocky commentary from a guy who guaranteed Borghi was a “high level NFL guy.”Don’t they know “he is a high level NFL guy?”
uw would have won the title by 5 touchdowns in Cam played for them.
Don't have Mel's wisdom, but here is tankathon's rating, with the first number being their overall draft rating. Bo Nix sure has some amazing numbers! :
1
Caleb Williams
QB | USC
6'1" 215 lbs
PASS YDS 3633
TD 30
INT 5
PCT 68.6
RATING 170.1
3
Drake Maye
QB | North Carolina
6'4" 230 lbs
PASS YDS 3608
TD 24
INT 9
PCT 63.3
RATING 149.0
7
Jayden Daniels
QB | LSU
6'4" 210 lbs
PASS YDS 3812
TD 40
INT 4
PCT 72.2
RATING 208.0
20
Michael Penix Jr.
QB | Washington
6'3" 216 lbs
PASS YDS 4903
TD 36
INT 11
PCT 65.4
RATING 157.1
31
Bo Nix
QB | Oregon
6'2" 213 lbs
PASS YDS 4508
TD 45
INT 3
PCT 77.4
RATING 188.3
34
J.J. McCarthy
QB | Michigan
6'3" 202 lbs
PASS YDS 2991
TD 22
INT 4
PCT 72.3
RATING 167.4
100
Cameron Ward
QB | Washington State
6'2" 223 lbs
PASS YDS 3736
TD 25
INT 7
PCT 66.6
RATING 145.4
Why do people always put so much stock in U$C QB’s. Name me one U$C qb who has led an NFL team to the Superbowl. Let alone success to their NFL team. Palmer bounced around and was okay. Other than that not much to brag about.Don't have Mel's wisdom, but here is tankathon's rating, with the first number being their overall draft rating. Bo Nix sure has some amazing numbers! :
1
Caleb Williams
QB | USC
6'1" 215 lbs
PASS YDS 3633
TD 30
INT 5
PCT 68.6
RATING 170.1
3
Drake Maye
QB | North Carolina
6'4" 230 lbs
PASS YDS 3608
TD 24
INT 9
PCT 63.3
RATING 149.0
7
Jayden Daniels
QB | LSU
6'4" 210 lbs
PASS YDS 3812
TD 40
INT 4
PCT 72.2
RATING 208.0
20
Michael Penix Jr.
QB | Washington
6'3" 216 lbs
PASS YDS 4903
TD 36
INT 11
PCT 65.4
RATING 157.1
31
Bo Nix
QB | Oregon
6'2" 213 lbs
PASS YDS 4508
TD 45
INT 3
PCT 77.4
RATING 188.3
34
J.J. McCarthy
QB | Michigan
6'3" 202 lbs
PASS YDS 2991
TD 22
INT 4
PCT 72.3
RATING 167.4
100
Cameron Ward
QB | Washington State
6'2" 223 lbs
PASS YDS 3736
TD 25
INT 7
PCT 66.6
RATING 145.4
Why do people always put so much stock in U$C QB’s. Name me one U$C qb who has led an NFL team to the Superbowl. Let alone success to their NFL team. Palmer bounced around and was okay. Other than that not much to brag about.
I was struggling to think of any good USC QB's and couldn't. I found a listing of them and while the list is respectably long with 17 NFL QB's, it's remarkably absent of quality NFL play. Matt Cassel wasn't terrible in the NFL and was #2 on their list but the irony is that he never started a game at USC. Rodney Peete was third.
I will say that the NFL is pretty darned fickle. WSU has had a few pretty good QB's who never really got much of a shot because of bad timing or injurie
Jack Thompson, Bledsoe, and Minshew were also on the losing side in Super bowls.Mark Rypien won a Superbowl with the Washington Redskins and was the MVP. Bledsoe got injured at New England, but still got a ring.
So was Samoa Samoa! But carrying a clipboard on the losing team ain't quite the same as being the Super Bowl MVP and a prime architect of the win. For all his troubles past and present, Mark's moment in the sun deserves recognition.Jack Thompson, Bledsoe, and Minshew were also on the losing side in Super bowls.
LOL. Penix is at No. 20?? MKJ has lost it.Don't have Mel's wisdom, but here is tankathon's rating, with the first number being their overall draft rating. Bo Nix sure has some amazing numbers! :
1
Caleb Williams
QB | USC
6'1" 215 lbs
PASS YDS 3633
TD 30
INT 5
PCT 68.6
RATING 170.1
3
Drake Maye
QB | North Carolina
6'4" 230 lbs
PASS YDS 3608
TD 24
INT 9
PCT 63.3
RATING 149.0
7
Jayden Daniels
QB | LSU
6'4" 210 lbs
PASS YDS 3812
TD 40
INT 4
PCT 72.2
RATING 208.0
20
Michael Penix Jr.
QB | Washington
6'3" 216 lbs
PASS YDS 4903
TD 36
INT 11
PCT 65.4
RATING 157.1
31
Bo Nix
QB | Oregon
6'2" 213 lbs
PASS YDS 4508
TD 45
INT 3
PCT 77.4
RATING 188.3
34
J.J. McCarthy
QB | Michigan
6'3" 202 lbs
PASS YDS 2991
TD 22
INT 4
PCT 72.3
RATING 167.4
100
Cameron Ward
QB | Washington State
6'2" 223 lbs
PASS YDS 3736
TD 25
INT 7
PCT 66.6
RATING 145.4
Don't think tankathon is associated with Mel. I meant that I didn't have Mel's wisdom, just didn't type the I. No idea where Mel ranks Penix.LOL. Penix is at No. 20?? MKJ has lost it.
Penix has bad knees and can't do anything under pressure with a bad OL. At best his NFL career is as good as Minshew's.
Cam pulled his name out of NFL and committed to Miami
Good move. Somebody must have talked some sense into him.Former Washington State QB Cameron Ward commits to Miami less than two weeks after declaring for NFL Draft
Ward spent two seasons at Washington State and announced on Jan. 1 that he wouldn't use his last year of eligibility.sports.yahoo.com
Or Miami found more cash.Good move. Somebody must have talked some sense into him.
Kinda blows your Ward is a bum and should be benched nonsense though. Right up there with Jenkins being the best playmaker on the team.“High level NFL guy.”
Jake Dickert
He’ll make more at Miami than he would in the NFL. He’s a day 3 pick if he’s picked at all, and there’s not a lot guaranteed at that level.
Bingo ! Not bad negotiations for a 23 year oldOr Miami found more cash.
Not having 5 top 10 QBs going in the same draft will increase his stock. He could be the same QB next year and probably will get drafted 100 picks higher. If he’s marginally better he will probably be a first or second rounder. Smart moveSmart move. Higher exposure with east coast media and IF he can produce about the same numbers and a winning record it may increase his stock value
Also, he hasn't been playing QB in a passing system that long overall. Another year of getting some film behind a decent offensive line, and with more experience reading coverages, etc. also could serve him well, unless dealing with a new offense is too much for him to deal with.Not having 5 top 10 QBs going in the same draft will increase his stock. He could be the same QB next year and probably will get drafted 100 picks higher. If he’s marginally better he will probably be a first or second rounder. Smart move
One slight correction imo. He was better in the first four games. After UCLA punched him in the face he reverted to last years Cam. He was the exact same dude we watched all of 2022 the last 8 games. Now I agree that it will be fascinating to see how good he can be with a running game and consistent line play, he’s going to get punished from time to time no matter what uniform he’s wearing, especially in the nfl. Will he go back to old habits? He’s a good athlete but he’s not Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. The Houdini shit will get him killed and he will continue to be a fumble machine in today’s NFL. Basically every rush end/LB in the league is faster than him. Huge concern if I’m an NFL GM thinking about using a high pick on a QB.Long story short, Cam needed another year in college...mostly to develop further, though the added exposure to a different part of the country is also probably a plus. He would have had a difficult time as a late draft pick this year. Maybe he will take another step forward (he was certainly better this year than last, so some added improvement seems realistic) and be able to improve his field vision...which would improve his draft stock. I'd like to see him do well; that is helpful for the staff when talking to new recruits.
Also outside of FSU and Clemson, which FSU was gutted by being left out of the playoff, he’s not facing as good of defenses as he did in the p12 this last year. I would guess he puts together better season overall, which should get him 100+ spots up the board in a QB class that’s not nearly as strong. Get yourself drafted 3rd round or higher as a QB you will probably have a 3 year shelf life in the nfl at minimum, worst case you end up on a practice squad with some decent guaranteed money.If Miami puts together a decent team next season, Cam's stock will go up, even if it's not all related to his play. Miami QBs always get the benefit of the doubt in the draft.